The new recycling system

I forsee many arguments with kids in many households as least in the early days as std practice now is to crush cans/bottles before tossing into recycling bin. Severe pocket money deductions looming large. Only problem is how do you know which kid did the deed. Solution blame em all equally...seems to be the states way of resolving these difficult dilemmas

I can see staff in the premises hosting the RVM's getting serious abuse if cans or bottles are being refused where the charge was taken when the items were purchased.

donegal county council just removed the can and bottle banks in donegal town. now have to drive an extra 11km there and back to the bring centre in laghey. 2 weeks before Christmas when they are always overflowing.

this is the logic of our institutions.

An automated return (via a machine system at a larger retailer) will be a voucher refund, only redeemable against purchases in that store.

I think this is incorrect. The voucher can be swapped for cash in store if you wish.

Consumers may return containers to a retailer that takes them back over the counter (manual), or through the use of a a Reverse Vending Machine (RVM). If returning to an RVM, you must insert all Re-turn drinks containers as instructed and you will then be issued with a voucher which may be redeemed at the till. *It is important to note that vouchers issued from an RVM must be redeemed at the same retail outlet.

You will have the choice to receive your refund against a store-bought purchase or in cash.

I'll agree 110% with the second half of that

They can't be crushed because the machine has to scan the code on them.

So instead of putting all my cans and bottles in the recycle bin 30 centimetres outside my back door as I’ve been doing since forever, I now need to store them separately somewhere, then at some point when they start taking up too much space drive to a supermarket with a boot load of them, hope that the machine isn’t on the blink, queue up behind people shovelling in their stuff one by one so the machine can read the barcode, do the same myself, get a paper print out of my refund (god forbid that in 2024 this could be just refunded directly to my bank account), head into the supermarket, queue up again at the checkout behind people unloading their trollies and paying for their groceries, before finally getting to the till and getting my deposit back.

I packed up going to the supermarket about a year ago and get my groceries delivered instead. Best decision I ever made, saved myself a couple of hours a week, but thanks to the head bangers I’m back baby!

Gotta laugh at their website with the big splash - Convenient for Everyone!

“With return points all across Ireland, returning your Re-turn drinks containers couldn't be easier”.

Mate I could do already do this in my slippers while the kettle boiled before you geniuses got involved.

Kids these days dont give a damn about money and are more likely to absent mindedly crush or bash bottles/cans than the poor sod who has to ultimately pay for them. Im constantly finding crushed plastic drink bottles in school bags...this will cause some friction in the not too distant future😂

I dont buy cans for kids. I barely buy the odd can of beer for myself these days😭

We all learn the value of money eventually.

It's a personal thing really so I'll leave it to your own discretion.

Correct, it's called Cabinet Collective Responsibility.

Main opposition fairly supportive of the scheme too.

But sure why would you care, its only a deposit all the same. It actually cost you nothing. Raising it to a € might capture another % of bottles/cans. Well worth it in the greater scheme of things

We don't put 2 black bins every week, sometimes it's 1 sometimes it's 2. For the sake of average lets say 1.5 black bin lifts. That's 1.5 * 14 euro * 26 biweekly bin lifts, or 546 per year. Jeebus, I didnt know it was that much actually.

Any word on machines being installed in the major train stations, transport hubs and motorway services here? Would make a lot of sense.