Do you know how to use a pedestrican crossing correctly?

Never mind pedestrian crossings. The amount of pedestrians who walk across junctions without looking is crazy, the rules are the same for a junction as a pedestrian crossing.

Yeah, no-one does option one. Ridiculous in this day and age.

Option four should be "when it's your turn to cross, do you proceed past the front or the back of the car that is now blocking access to the entire crossing?"

Straight from the rulebook:

Vehicles do not have an automatic right of way on the road. The overriding rule is, in all circumstances, to proceed with caution.

You must always yield to:

• pedestrians already crossing at a junction;
• pedestrians on a zebra crossing;
• pedestrians on a pelican crossing when the amber light is flashing; and
• pedestrians and traffic when you are moving off from a stationary position (for example from your position at a stop sign or a parking space).

To avoid doubt and in the interest of road safety, a vehicle should always yield to pedestrians.

Hardly any drivers stop at a pelican crossing when the amber traffic light/green pedestrian sign is flashing and a person is stood, waiting to cross.

Car drivers invariably do not follow the rules here.

Doesn't a pedestrian establish right of way when they behind to cross at an uncontrolled junction??

There are some rules of the road that are impossible to follow. The main one that come to mind is turning around the back of another right turning car at a junction or yellow box. 99% of the time the other driver doesnt move out far enough, so you have to do it wrong or the whole road gets held up.

So since nobody ever does it you always approach the turn assuming you will be doing this the way you have always done it. So nobody bothers.

Lots of other examples.

Another one that really annoys me and is mostly done by women from what i have observed. You are turning right off the row and you cut the corner of the lane going the opposite direction on the road you are turning on to. Saw one person clipping a car that was stopped one day and then proceed to try to convince all of the witnesses that she was in the right. The other car was clearly stopped and on their side of the road. With a handy solid right angle line to help with the discussion.

None of above really. Just size up the traffic and cross. Jay walking I think they call it some places, common sense I call it. Rarely use button of ped lights too, no point in holding up traffic when you've long gone.

You must always yield to:

• pedestrians already crossing at a junction;
• pedestrians on a zebra crossing;

The italicisation is key here. Your requirement to yield does not begin until the pedestrian is either already crossing or already on the zebra section. STanding waiting on the path does not confer right of way or mandate the driver to stop. I only stop if people are on the crossing

Interesting thread.

I’m a driver but love walking too. The way motorist treat traffic lights with the flashing amber is beyond dangerous.

It’s at the point now where when it switches from red to flashing amber, the foot goes down and they tear through with no consideration if there’s still a pedestrian crossing/just about to cross.

What is the rule for red -> flashing amber? Get ready to go, or go if safe to do so? It still has a green flashing pedestrian when it’s happening so I assume pedestrians still have their right of way then.

There's a whole laundry list of similar questions you could level at pretty much everyone who uses the road. Pedestrians are probably the least common offenders that motorists encounter. Other cars, vans and trucks cause way more hassle on a daily basis

Do you know how to.......

• use your indicators?
• obey traffic lights?
• not park on the path?
• leave room for other road users?
• use your lights correctly?
• use a roundabout correctly?
• use the correct lane?
• maintain your vehicle properly?
• leave yellow boxes empty?
• not tailgate in bad weather?

Spent the last 7 years as a professional driver (of sorts) and had my eyes opened. It seems that adults are the worst. I have seen (many times) an adult walk past the P Crossing and then 5 yards later they look up and run between the cars and give daggers if you dont wave them through . I reckon they think PC's are just for kids

At uncontrolled junctions and crossings I'd imagine. Where there are lights, a pedestrian must obey the green/red man lights and they don't take priority over them....

It's fairly obvious to experienced drivers that there's a crossing ahead due to the layout & pinching, let alone the flashing orange beacons.

Pedestrians can often mistake painted raised speed ramps for crossings, again, most experienced drivers would recognise this and simply let them cross. They are in areas where drivers would be traveling slowly anyway.

That's the problem - there is no 'layout and pinching' - I guess you're in Dublin - outside of Dublin the local authorities do not care in an ever increasing circle from their town/city hall.

In Cork many of the crossings are faded with no zig zags before and after.

And NO there should be no crossing a road by walking on speed bumps - another local authority mess.

1 and 3 won't cut it in many of the countries in Eastern Europe, you'll end up waiting for all the traffic to go past. The only approach that reliably works is to walk straight out with ne'er a look at the oncoming traffic; they've got to believe you're serious about it.

At multi-lane crossings, only when the traffic in the first lane have stopped should you look, but you absolutely have to look out for the drivers in the 2nd and later lanes who might have been blindsided by the traffic in lane 1 actually stopping.

That's a great way to get yourself killed.

Above is a Pedestrian Crossing - No zig zags - cars parked - paint faded

Above is a 'Speed Bump' to slow traffic on a residental road - people who are not familiar with Ireland use it as a Pedestrian Crossing.

My biggest problem as a driver at crossings are the pram pushers.

If I had kids I would be concerned and protective of them.

In Ireland though, they simply push that yoke out there without bothering to look, judge the circumstances or anything really.

It's almost used like a weapon.

Poor flippin kids. Sends shivers down my neck even if I'm not driving.

Putting the foot out first would remind me of my Irish dancing lessons 😐️

This myth. Again.

How many have you prams have you run over? How many babies in prams are killed every week, month, year, decade?

None. Because it doesn't happen in real life.