Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

It has nothing to do with hostages or Hamas. Pumping in seawater will destroy the few aquifers that Gaza has. Just another step in the great big game of ethnic cleansing and genocide.

The fact that a plurality of the worlds Jews now live in either Israel or the Disputed Territories, clearly and flatly contradicts most of that rubbish. It is mathematically nonsense. Calling for the destruction of Israel with chants like "From the River to Sea" would directly imperil about 7.5 million Jews.

Supporting the right of these people to exist in safety is not anti-Semitic. Anti-Semitism is what we've seen on US college campuses and among the Left mirroring the call of Iran and Hamas for the 7.5 million Jews to be driven From the River into the Sea.

Israel is roughly the same as the caliphate that ISIS was trying to set up there a while back. It's a religious state arbitrarily set up that continually settles land around it that is not theirs and it is killing non-believers in the process. Its leader proudly displayed a map of Israel with its borders expanded and Palestine completely wiped out. European and Americans Jews move to Israel and settle this land in the same way Muslims from around the world moved to the caliphate.

Maths and facts have everything to do with it. 7.4 million Jews - a plurality the total, depending on your count - live in Israel or the Disputed Territories. That's a fact. As to your piece, reviewed it briefly. Nothing there IIRC mentioned what would happen to the 7.4 million Jews if the anti-"Zionists" got their way.

Well, they tried various forms of a two-state solution (including accepting the original partition plan of 1947), then respecting revised borders until 1967 and most recently had abandoned the Gaza Strip in 2005, and none of it has worked ... so far.

THE GUARDIAN

Israeli military kills six in Jenin, Palestinian officials say – as it happened

UN general assembly votes to demand Gaza ceasefire ​

The UN general assembly overwhelmingly voted to demand an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza.​

The resolution for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire passed with 153 members voting in favor, 10 voting against, and 23 abstaining.​

The countries that voted against included:​

* The United States​

* Austria​

* Israel​

* Paraguay​

The United Kingdom voted to abstain.​

“The United Nations general assembly overwhelmingly voted to demand an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza. The ceasefire resolution passed with 153 members voting in favour, 10 voting against and 23 abstaining. The US, Israel and eight other countries – including Austria, Guatemala and Liberia – voted against the resolution.​

"The US looked increasingly isolated on the world stage after the UN ceasefire vote, which highlighted the stiffening consensus around the world for the need to stop Israel’s relentless assault on Gaza. In contrast, the previous UN resolution calling for a “humanitarian truce” on 27 October attracted 120 votes in favour and 14 against, with 45 abstentions.​

"Joe Biden said Israel was starting to “lose support” from the international community due to its indiscriminate bombing in Gaza. The US president added that Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu needed to change his hardline government.​

"Israeli tank shelling on Tuesday was focused on the centre of Khan Younis, southern Gaza’s main city, residents said. Israeli airstrikes there killed 11 Palestinians, including two children, health officials said. Further south in Rafah, bordering Egypt, strikes killed 22 people including children, officials said.​

Starry:

Australia, New Zealand, Canada and India. …. (as news breaks on which countries abstained) VOTED IN FAVOUR OF RESOLUTION.

BUT... UN should send in blue helmets now. That’s the only way this vote will mean anything at all.

‘Australia shifts position to vote in favour of UN resolution calling for Gaza ceasefire’

‘Australia joins 152 nations to vote for resolution that expresses grave concern over ‘catastrophic humanitarian situation in the Gaza’

Daniel Hurst and Katharine Murphy

Wed 13 Dec 2023

Australia shifts position to vote in favour of UN resolution calling for Gaza ceasefire

"Australia has voted in favour of a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza and an immediate and unconditional release of all hostages in an emergency session of the United Nations general assembly.​

"In a shift in position, Australia joined 152 other nations in voting in favour of the resolution on Wednesday morning. Canada and New Zealand also voted in favour.​

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More detailed info from AP

UN General Assembly votes overwhelmingly to demand a humanitarian cease-fire in Gaza

By EDITH M. LEDERER

UN General Assembly votes overwhelmingly to demand a humanitarian cease-fire in Gaza

“UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. General Assembly voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to demand a humanitarian cease-fire in Gaza in a strong demonstration of global support for ending the Israel-Hamas war. The vote also showed the growing isolation of the United States and Israel.​

"The vote in the 193-member world body was 153 in favor, 10 against and 23 abstentions, and ambassadors and other diplomats burst into applause as the final numbers were displayed. The United States and Israel were joined in opposing the resolution by eight countries — Austria, Czechia, Guatemala, Liberia, Micronesia, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay.​

…​

“Tuesday’s vote showed major shifts in voting. More than 25 countries that abstained on Oct. 27 supported Tuesday’s cease-fire demand, including Albania, Australia, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Ethiopia, Finland, Greece, Iceland, India, Iraq, Japan, Latvia, Monaco, North Macedonia, Philippines, Poland, South Korea, Moldova, San Marino, Serbia, Sweden, Tunisia, Tuvalu, Vanuatu and Zambia.​

"Croatia and Fiji went from voting no on Oct. 27 to voting yes on Tuesday, while Hungary, the Marshall Islands and Tonga went from voting no to abstaining.​

Chilling image out of Gaza.

Israel demolished a cemetery because they could

https://x.com/EyeonPalestine/status/1734862614390268286?t=WARSAYvjCYrMxYufaxJnDQ&s=09

I agree if Bibi and his Far right coalition along with Hamas are gone after this war there might be a chance for a political settlement. As things stands Bibi does not want the PA to take over in Gaza after the war,the Americans if the political will is there can force the issue , but will they is the question. All Bibi really cares about is staying in power this is the real reason he is intent on continuing the war, he hopes by crushing Hamas he can rehabilitate his image as Mr Security and remain in power. I don't think it will work, but it won't stop him from trying.

"You're proving my point that Israel and supporters of Israel are very happy to engage in genuine anti-Semitism if they feel that anti-Semitic propaganda narratives can benefit Israel."

Surely you mean some supporters of Israel and some Israelis?

Yes, that's what I meant. He was even prepared to upend the constitution in order to avoid going to prison. This is why I can't see him listening to Biden about removing his fellow crazies, he is beholden to them . I could possibly see a move being made against Bibi by others if America twists the arm of the Israeli Government, but Biden doesn't have the bottle to do so, especially given he trying to court the swing vote for the next election

Are they expecting dead Palestinians to rise up in some sort of Hamas zombie apocalypse?

Havent paid attention in a few weeks

Whats the latest ?