Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

The person in question has not pointed out any anti-Semitism and they themselves are pushing an anti-Semitic trope. I have thoroughly explained why the trope that poster is pushing is anti-Semitic.

Meanwhile you are resorting to throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism in a similar ludicrous manner to how QAnon supporters throw around the slur "paedophile" with absolutely zero to back it up.

This post is a classic example of shouting. You were asked to point out what I have said is anti-Semitic and why. You have refused to do so, but you keep shouting anyway.

This is QAnon level "shout paedophile at them" stuff.

You also believe it's legitimate to conflate Jews with Israel. That is YOYU perpetuating actual anti-Semitism. I laid out specifically why this is so in my previous reply to you.

Here it is again:

The myth that Jews = Israel holds that non-Israeli Jews are automatically "disloyal" to their country of origin, it holds that all Jews are responsible for the actions and crimes of the state of Israel (they are not), it turns Jewish individuals, schools, places of worship or businesses into "legitimate targets" for protest or intimidation in response to Israel's crimes because it conflates these things with Israel (when they are absolutely not Israel), and it promotes crazy ideas of a "Jewish world conspiracy".

So by perpetuating the myth that Jews = Israel, it is the likes of YOU and the other poster SeanW - as well as Israel itself who promotes this anti-Semitic myth - who are saying that Jewish individuals, Jewish schools, Jewish places of worship, Jewish businesses etc. that these are Israeli, and thus you are deeming them legitimate targets for political protest.

But they are NOT legitimate targets for protest, intimidation or anything else, for the bleedin' obvious reason that a Jewish school or place of worship or business does NOT equal Israeli.

Anti-Semitism absolutely IS a problem and there is real anti-Semitism within a minority of the pro-Palestine movement internationally.

But too many of those who are tasked with fighting anti-Semitism and those who should be calling out anti-Semitism are not really interested in doing that, they're too busy mendaciously reclassifying legitimate and necessary criticism of the state of Israel as "anti-Semitic", and thus cheapening the very concept of anti-Semitism itself for political purposes.

The IHRA examples of anti-Semitism are a classic example of this. The IHRA examples of anti-Semitism are a pro-Israel political project rather than a good faith attempt to combat real anti-Semitism.

Nowadays it seems you can get away with any anti-Semitism as long you're sympathetic to Israel. Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Kevin McCarthy, Viktor Orban, the Law and Justice party in Poland, Douglas Murray, Kevin Myers and Elon Musk have all proved that. And Israel itself proves it over and over and over again.

This is a grotesque inversion of reality as a political propaganda project.

Israel's basic law defines it as a Jewish state. A Jewish state for a Jewish people, just like Northern Ireland defined itself as a Protestant state for a Protestant people.

Israel's government and propaganda operation believes words matter. But not in a good faith way. Every reality-denying regime in history knows that words matter. That is why reality-denying regimes use words to distort, not to inform.

That is why Israel searches endlessly for any formula of words and policing of words which will delegitimise and discredit its critics.

And why it engages in words which distort the truth for political gain, even if these words constitute real anti-Semitism, which they often do.

James Craig said it. He was the Prime Minister of Northern Ireland.

Northern Ireland, like Israel, was caught in the double think that it was a state for one religion and one religion only, while also pretending that it did not discriminate against the minority.

The Republic of Ireland also discriminated on a religious basis as you point out and as far as I know technically still does according to the constitution.

However neither the Northern Ireland state nor the Republic were ever remotely as a cold a house for the minority as Israel is nor inflicted the level of utterly grotesque and systematic oppression it has inflicted on Palestinians.

Northern Ireland was a hateful place, but Catholics were not reduced to the level of the Jewish ghettoes of World War II like Palestinians now are.

How am I trying to do that? This is more bluster and unsubstantiated nonsense.

It is Israel and those who refuse to acknowledge that "Jews = Israel" is an anti-Semitic trope who are saying that "Jewish business and schools and places of worship = Israel".

Israel seems happy to place a big red cross on the heads of Jews worldwide for its own convenience. This is similar to how the far right in Ireland, far from wanting to protect people from crime, want crimes like the Parnell Square stabbing to happen, and they want more of them. Because such crimes benefit them politically. It's also similar to how Hamas sees the slaughter of Palestinians by Israel as a massive recruiting sergeant, benefitting it in the long run.

I condemn any attacks on Jewish civilians anywhere whether they support Israel or not. But challenging people on their political views in an appropriate setting is not an attack. If people people volunteer opinions in accepted forums for debate such as Twitter or other online forums, they will be challenged.

Meanwhile we have complete silence from the pro-Israel posters here as it is demonstrated that supporters of Palestinian human rights are under consistent and chilling attack in the US and elsewhere.