Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

im my own boss so ring me if you want.

grow up.

im going to report a few I know of for the craic. good day. x

Ok Hun x

Very likely 0 company too

Well it's not going to change anytime soon.

The 2024 to 2029 deal was struck last week.

The EPL made a number of crucial changes this time around.

They upped the number of games from 200 to 270 per year.

But they also reduced the number of packages available to 5 and they extended the length from 3 to 4 years.

And it ended up with Sky buying 4 and TNT (BT Sport) buying 1.

The headline is that the broadcasters paid more than ever before, but with more games and the longer term the broadcasters end up paying less per game.

The EPL structured the auction in such a way that only the established broadcasters could really win, and no package would be hard to sell, plus the extended duration gives them a bit of breathing room to consider the future about perhaps going it alone, the Saturday 3pm etc.

There was no small package like the one Amazon won last time.

Overall now 70% of EPL games will be on TV, back in 2013 there were only 36% of games.

So for the fan they are getting far more games than they ever got and have one supplier less to pay.

And all Sunday games will be broadcast.

i don't think illegal streaming was as much of a problem for the broadcasters as some would like to think.

The broadcasters didn't tell the EPL that they would be drastically reducing their bids because of the spectre of illegal streaming.

Never quite understood why Sky/TNT were stopped from showing every game live that your team plays in the PL.

Truth is there’s lots of subscribers to a server because they can’t do that via 28e legally.

On top of this we here in Ireland are treated like we’re apart of the UK and the same amount of games are legally allowed here as the UK bar the 1-3pm of a Saturday.

They’ve set themselves up for this with their draconian laws. Look at Germany ffs, all games Live on TV yet crowds flock to the Bundesliga.

I have my IPTV but decided to splash out and got the 4k sky stream delivered today. My God it is absolutely horrendous! Pure scutter and my IPTV app is far more professional and easy to use. Sky want €70 a month for this. Luckily I have 14 days to return it with no charge

Well it's simple really.

The media rights in the EPL are collective, everyone gets a cut of them.

If you showed every game live then the big teams would obviously get bigger viewing figures and thus would demand a bigger portion of the media rights pie, crying foul that the smaller teams are stopping them for reaching their potential revenues.

Just like the original EPL 22 did in 1992 when they broke away from the other 70.

And it's things like that that are the drivers behind European Super league talk, the bigger clubs wanting to ditch the smaller ones for a bigger pay day

But with the new deal that is coming in next year 70% of games will be shown, that leaves only 110 out of 380 games not shown live, and you can bet the majority of them will be the games involving the smaller clubs, the games relatively few people would be interested in watching anyway.

So the fans of the big teams will get to see a huge percentage of their teams games from 2024 onwards.

What happens in the deal after that will be interesting.

With the new deal the EPL have basically reduced the 3pm kick off to 110 games, or 30% of the games in a season.

It averages out at 3 per "game week".

They have got around their own blackout problem by making the time slot almost irrelevant.

The 3pm kick off was devised at a time when industrial workers got paid and got a half day on a Saturday.

It's relevance in a 21st century global world has long since disappeared.

Is now TV still only 720p over here? I know it was when I was using it. Poor interface and the picture quality wasn't great.

The major problem the broadcasters have, and are unwilling to deviate from, is selling packages that people just aren't interested in. They need to rethink and reinvent how people consume sports and start selling them at affordable prices and ensure that the packages are customisable. Someone should absolutely be able to buy all the Liverpool games, or Man Utd games for example without have to purchase the US Masters or Darts along with it.

That's what customers want. Sky have shown they cannot eliminate IPTV. They need to think outside the box.

I don't think SKY will though and I think they are only playing lip service to tackling IPTV. It's not costing them anything really. Probably cost them more to introduce tech to deal with it.

Screw Sky.

That's one thing we agree on. IPTV isn't the issue for Sky, TNT and the Premier League that some including Sky would say. Even their 180k estimate is pittance really.

I wouldn't look down my nose on people with low incomes using IPTV as a means to watch live football or live sport. They should be catered for too and they really are not currently. Football has been going down the path of becoming a wealth only sport for a while now and I think that's only going to get worse.

Doesn't matter. Users of IPTV have zero chance being caught or ending up before the courts. The legalities don't come into it when they are unenforceable.

When DAZN took over NFL Gamepass this year they were charging something like €150 for a yearly sub. No discount for just RedZone, or just highlights or anything.

Now that got you loads of stuff all the way up to next August, but for someone like myself the NFL season is only just over 5 months long and I only care about the games or RedZone, so €150 for that was way too much for me to be paying.

If golf or rugby were offering similar streaming packages they would possibly be in the same price bracket, seeing as both are considered sports that have affluent fans.

On the other hand you could just pop over the the Bargain Alerts form here and get a code to get Sky Sport and TNT for E15 and E11.99 respectively for 3 months on Now TV, that's E27 a month for all your NFL, golf and rugby.

And when your three months are up there will probably be another equal or better discount out there.

People need to realize that you don't have to pay Sky or TNT full whack per month and commit to a long subscription anymore, there are "legal" alternatives.

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