Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Did the Germans have any reason to see the Jews as a threat?

Was it not rather an entirely gratuitous scapegoating of a minority to advance their own poisonous ends?

Did Orwell or similar ever get a chance to treat the treatment of Jews and other minorities in the hellhole that was Germany before the second world war?

What ,I wonder is the best description of that period by a good writer?

No, they aren't even trying, and they actually have the means. So please stop with the genocide nonsense, it's embarrassing.

The difference is Germany wanted to kill all Jews, where as Israel mainly wants Palestinians to leave.

Of course they'll happily kill a very significant quantity of Palestinians to achieve this, but openly trying to eradicate all Palestinians would be too bad for International relations and may see other countries (even the US) try to intervene.

So they'll continue their current approach, kill a large amount, deprive them of basic human needs, impose hunger and terror upon them and the majority will then be begging to leave the first chance they get.

Israeli leaders: War to go on until Hamas defeated, ‘with or without’ world’s approval

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-leaders-war-to-go-on-until-hamas-defeated-with-or-without-worlds-approval/

So it's just gonna go on and on. What is it like 2/3s of accommodation is already in ruins. Gaza will just be a scar on the landscape by the lime Israeli bloodlust is satisfied.

Israeli official calling for the abolishment of Palestine.

Link

Can we accept that the official Israeli position is that Palestine can no longer exist?

You're in favour of protecting borders now are ya??

"It doesn't surprise me to see you refer to Boyd Barret as an antisemite, such an accusation unfortunately carries little weight any longer given how it has been abused by apologists for Israels butchery. It is part of the two pronged approach in an attempt to shut down any criticism of Israel, the other prong being the accusation of holocaust denial..."

So now I'm part of a conspiracy to shut down criticism of Israel and engage in holocaust denial. I don't remember becoming a member of such a conspiracy. When did I join this group and does it have a name? ... or maybe you're just a conspiracy theorist and I think Boyd Barrett is an anti-Semite based on his disgusting words.

"And you can attempt to dismiss my content as being binary when the reality is that I am one of the few posters to go to the effort of proposing actions for all parties to take steps towards peace and I have condemned the attacks of Hamas consistently, and repeatedly over the last weeks." You've condemned the Hamas attacks without acknowledging their genocidal intent or that there can be no peace while they are in charge. You've failed to acknowledge that the civilian deaths are a direct result of both Israeli and Hamas engaging in heated street fighting. You've failed to acknowledge that Hamas and their attack in October enjoy support from a significant proportion of the people of Gaza, probably a majority. You keep saying that all Israeli's are culpable for the actions of the Government of Israel but don't accept that the same applies to the government and people of Gaza. How do you square that?

" I don't disappear from the thread when asked to recognize people held illegally on both sides as hostages, in the way some people do." Do you really think it's the same thing?

"Here, in this instance, you are complaining because I am commenting on the literal words of a Minister of the Israeli Government and pointing out that despite such clear cut evidence, it is still claimed that they are not carrying out a genocide, or have no intent to do so."

I've said that the evidence doesn't support the accusation. I've never denied that there are nutters in the Israeli Government that would happily commit genocide. I've also compared the Jewish Settlers in the West Bank to Hamas.

"When it comes to being compared to people who have been members of Dail Eireann, I'd be much happier being seen as a Boyd Barret, than an Alan Shatter. Calling for the safety of millions of people should not be so offensive to people in the way it appears to be."

You'd be happy to be compared with a man who wants to impose a totalitarian Marxist State and therefore massively restrict the civil rights and freedoms of every person in this country in order to ape totalitarian regimes that viciously murdered tens of millions of people in the last century rather than a man who has consistently championed the poor and marginalised and, over the course of a long political career, shown himself to be a brilliant legislator... because he's Jewish and is now supporting Israel. I think that says more about you than it says about Alan Shatter.

It'll be difficult to let building materials through as long as Hamas are still in charge since their first priority will always be to attack Israel and so will divert resources to that end.

Genocidal nonsense you say, are you sure about that ?

So her views don't represent the position of the current Israeli Government or is it that in a fit of temper the mask slipped. The evidence given the actions of Bibi over the years would clearly suggest its the former

I think she may receive a dressing down in private for that interview.

Jmreire , you keep making the point that no countries are willing to take in Palestinians in large numbers because of the perceived threat that they may cause to said counties.

If you check the historical records , the same language was used against another group of people who went through sickening repression and genocide .These people were expelled from a far greater amount of countries throughout history for the perceived threat they caused.

Looking forward to your argument that these countries were absolutely correct in their assessments of said people .