Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

I think Facebook and boards are talking to each other on my phone because the following was in Facebook while I was scolling last night:

Basically, a female Canadian power lifter April Hutchinson called out the new Canadain female national champion Anne Andres for being male, smashing records and bragging about it. She went on with Piers Morgan and said:

'It's been very disheartening, that national record that he broke athletes have been chasing that for years,' she said. 'It just goes to show the physical advantages that a male has over a female.'

In response, the Canadian Powerlifting Union says it has recommended that Hutchinson be suspended for two years, which she said was for 'speaking publicly about the unfairness of biological males being allowed to taunt female competitors and loot their winnings.' 

Andres sounds like a wonderful woman who enjoys mocking her opponents.

How else can they keep this going other than by banning women for speaking out?

https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/12/07/exclusive-parents-speak-out-after-boy-wins-girls-irish-dancing-regional-championships/

A boy who came 11th in the world as a boy in April, competed as a girl in a world championships qualifier at the start of this month and won, taking a world championship spot from a girl.

Well I can speak for myself in saying what you're asserting is complete and utter nonsense. My issue has always been about sporting FAIRNESS.

Please quote any post by me where I assert that the issue with Transwomen competing in the Female category is a safety issue. Otherwise, it would be nice if you had the good grace and manners to withdraw your disgusting allegation. But That's more hope than expectation on my behalf, to be honest. I wouldn't expect either trait from you.

Well that's one complaint. And you said "all these complaints" This thread has 182 pages, many of which are people taking issue with Transwomen competing in the female category in sport. You have alleged that "all these complaints" are "really about exclusion of trans people". I can speak for myself when I say with 100% certainty that mine are not. They are about sporting fairness.

It does indeed seem you neither have the grace or manners to withdraw your disgusting allegation.

I must have missed the part where I said this was unsafe. Though it does raise the safeguarding question about shared changing rooms. It is unfair to the girls that they have to compete against a boy who has the benefit of male physiology.

A girl has missed out because of this boy competing in a category he shouldn't be in.

This seems to be the first women's world championship, won by a male.

Two issues there:

(1) Transwomen generally identify as females, not some 3rd gender. Similarly, Transmen generally identify as males, not some 3rd gender. As a result, you are likely to find that your approach will not be regarded as an acceptable "solution" by some/many transgender athletes.

(2) Most sports are categorised by sex (determined by physical characteristics), not gender (determined by how people self-identify). There are only 2 sexes: Male and Female. Of course, there are also genders labelled Male and Female, but there are many more additional genders. There are no other sexes.

I think the Dublin Marathon had a non-binary category this year, and the number of entrants was a small handful, if I'm not mistaken. So, I'd tend to agree that there doesn't seem to be much interest in such categories.

Should a biological male (ie a person born a man) be allow to compete against a biological female (ie a person born a woman) in competitive 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races?

That's really the question of this thread - it's gonnen a bit bigger by expanding it to other thing but if we go back to basics the answer to the question is simply no.

Its a pity the reasons why need to be "debated" in any instance.

A third gender of human you say! ....

Possible sightings in ancient Rome of the lesser known spotted dickusvaginalis (latin) might be responsible for this myth? But not in reality, for there is no such thing as a third human gender or sex. Just Male & Female, Man (xy) and Woman (xx).

So called Trans "woman" cannot, and should not compete against girls and women in sport, (an obvious thing to say even ten-year ago), but now the confusion & uncertainty, as to what a woman is, and the fact that the female category in sport was set-up so that women could compete against each other ... and not against biological males!

Think the answer is no?

So it looks like Lia Thomas is going to test World Aquatics' category eligibility rules in the CAS (The ultimate legal decision maker in sports).

That's good news. A definitive ruling by CAS will bring clarity, one way or the other.

that sounds nonsensical to me, just look what you posted and have a think about it

Sorry: among Gen Z.

at least 23.4 million identify as LGBTQ across all ages if you can extrapolate from Pew across the entire USA, which is catching up on the mere 36.4 million registered Republicans. Those numbers will converge rapidly as the boomers die out.

Define tiny group please.