Prime Time Gender Issues (READ OP BEFORE POSTING)

Big claim there for any child sent to the Tory NHS for treatment.

Didn't see the full programme, but don't see how an adult can take the NHS to court for allowing their surgery to happen, when they realise after the op they made the wrong decision.

You're an adult, your choice.

If they hadn't been allowed the op, they would have sued the NHS too.

I could not believe what i was watching total 180 on the usual stuff

children on the spectrum will sleep safer in their beds tonight

I thought both the programme and this thread are a complete breath of fresh air and how dare the HSE treat such respected medical people so badly - they have the true welfare of the children at heart and it’s about bloody time that that TENI organisation gets a good kick up the hole because theyve done far more harm than good to those children

You would have got banned on boards for saying that not so long ago - thank Christ the world has changed

I believe it’s called ‘normal human variation’.

When they used to beat the left-handedness out of kids there were much less left hands people in the world. When they stopped the level of left-handedness rose and then plateaued.

When homosexuality was a criminal offence, in certain countries, the number of gay people was low. When those laws were changed and gay people were accepted for who they are the numbers rose and then plateaued.

Now that trans kids are feeling more supported in certain sections of society their numbers will rise and, once the hatred and fear are conquered, they will plateau as well.

Well, I can't give someone else's opinion, only my own.

Wow "Silence anyone who opposes me" ... so original.

Yeah, because autists are well know to have easily changeable minds. 🙄

And autistic people are well known for their slavish devotion to what's trendy. They're always in the latest styles straight off the catwalk.

There's a higher proportion of gay people in the autistic community. Are you saying that those gay people were convinced by others that they are gay? Are gay people going around and targeting autistic teens to make them gay? No, of course they're not. Are gay autistic teens deciding that they like being rogered because it's trendy?

There's a higher amount of LGBT people in the autistic community. No-one is quite sure why. the two things have a link. But claiming that they are like that because autistic people are easily influenced by trends and would change sexuality or gender on a whim is just plain ridiculous. It's also disgustingly ablest. It removes all ability to make rational decisions from them.

And this means what for every other child?

Stop projecting.

Nobody is suggesting removing the Ovaries of 7 year olds though, you are creating a nonsense hypothetical situation that never happens.

But they are suggesting that said girl should have her identity affirmed, and be socially transitioned. No questioning, no exploratory therapy, just affirmation. Groomed into believing she actually is a boy. Which will lead to medical interventions.

It's child abuse.

Plain and simple.

Child abuse.

Who is this mysterious "they" - All guidance on young children claiming they are trans suggests getting advice from medical practitioners.

And also no its not "grooming" because there is sexual abuse of children taking place.

It does seem like a phase at the moment for vulnerable teenage girls.

One the girls say they are a boy that's grand.

But once they want hormones and puberty blockers - this must be a nightmare for their parents knowing that it's just a phase that will pass.

There was zero balance in the show. No mention of the harms done to the much larger majority of trans kids and adults by NOT having access to services. No mention of the years of delay on the waiting lists for services. No mention of how rare 'regret' is for those who have gone through surgery.

It was a fairly classic hit piece.

None, according to the summary of treatments given on Prime Time.

How would the parents know that it's 'just a phase'?

By 'bending to their whims', I presume you mean addressing them as they ask to be addressed, right? That's pretty much all you have to do. They're not asking you to climb Carrauntoohil or anything - just show a little bit of human respect and dignity.

This 'can change day to day' is a figment of your imagination, but you knew that, right?

They could guess and would be right in majority of cases.

Research shows that gender dysmorphia in teens resolves itself without treatment in the vast majority of cases - i.e. its just a phase.