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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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    #28202
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,357 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I twitch to correct some of the more egregious misuse of words that I see online, but it can't be done and gradually one person's errors become lots of people's errors, then even become accepted as appropriate usage. 'Decimated' is a good example, but there are thousands more. Thus language/English becomes weakened until swathes of the population have no real idea of the meaning of the words they use.

    So, evidently, it is with 'dictator'. The 'poorly educated' have decided it just means someone who is makes decisive moves and gets things done, so there is no scare factor, no other implications (so long as its Trump). Its the Proles' contribution to Newspeak.

    Yes, language has always developed and changed, but thanks to the internet this is happening year by year or even month by month so that some people are still using the original meaning of words while others are using their own invented meaning, so that we are not speaking the same language.



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    #28203
    Christy42
    Registered Users Posts: 7,970 ✭✭✭Christy42


    The support for a dictatorship is unsurprising.


    I saw it mentioned a bit around the time of Biden's election that some terms "shouldn't count" because the media was mean to him or whatever. It was also mentioned a lot in the run up to Jan 6th that the "correct" result should be enforced through force.


    They are well aware that relying on public voting will not get the result they want, they have seen that in the various abortion bills that have been voted on in lower levels.


    Love the analogy of a parent coming in insisting to clean up or whatever when it would be closer to completely following the orders of an annoyed toddler.



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    #28204
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493509#Comment_121493509

    Agreed, but I mention it in the context of two people, hearing the same words, and generously interpreting it in the manner which suits them best.

    One thinks "he didn't mean it"... the other "well, isn't that a good thing?"



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    #28205
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,324 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493599#Comment_121493599

    I'm just reminded of this classic tweet at this stage, if indeed Trump were to be elected and went full-on President-King; these fools will only quickly pivot to buyer's remorse once things kicked into overdrive and the economy started cratering.

    https://twitter.com/Cavalorn/status/654934442549620736




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    #28206
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493706#Comment_121493706

    But they'd blame it on the Liberals.

    The chances that they themselves would recognise and accept that their position was a self-inflicted wound are fairly slim.

    It'll be a bit like the Brexiteers - It's not awful because it's an awful idea , it's because nefarious outsiders blocked them from doing it properly..



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    #28207
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,529 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494568#Comment_121494568

    I don't disagree but surely there's been at least some trickle of support leaving the MAGA demographic. I'm barely familiar with US Politics, never mind the latest polling but surely after everything he's done and been convicted of, that demographic must have shrunk somewhat.

    I'm not saying he can't win in 2024 but he's not even pretending to offer anything.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #28208
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,324 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494593#Comment_121494593

    Leaving the MAGA cohort? Yes for sure there'll be a loss of support, but there'd still be voters who'd lean Republican anyway - especially if they were already anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ, pro-business, "red state" conservatives before Trump came along. A lot of folk will vote Trump not because they're MAGA, but because they can't stand the other side & their mandate. No more than Biden won not because he was loved by the left of centre in the US - he clearly isn't the further Left you travel - but because Trump was & remains an egregious affront to stability, normalcy and democracy.



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    #28209
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494819#Comment_121494819

    And that is a fundamental failing of a binary Political system , a failing that has been amplified beyond recognition in recent years by a hyper-partisan media.

    Unless you are a zealot you have two choices in the US - Vote for the one that disgusts you the least or abstain.

    The sooner they expand the use of ranked choice voting the better.



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    #28210
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1735310102465274290?s=20

    Another blowhard - promises to testify and then chickens out.

    Such a scurrilous bunch of degenerates.



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    #28211
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,665 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    To be "fair" to him, there is not a single competent lawyer in all the land who would let him testify.



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    #28212
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,278 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121495384#Comment_121495384

    That's why he was representing himself



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    #28213
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,665 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121495432#Comment_121495432

    😂

    Never mind.



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    #28214
    TinyMuffin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    https://youtu.be/hLVjvXoLxq4?si=Xm-NfThoGtj9RgWu


    spend 4600 dollars and get a piece of his suit 😋



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    #28215
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121495384#Comment_121495384

    If I was representing him I'd have told him to jump up there and work away. Then, sit back with a bowl of popcorn. Its not like he'll be paying his lawyer anyway. Might as well have some fun with it.



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    #28216
    duck.duck.go
    Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121498177#Comment_121498177

    If you are a lawyer who is dealing with Trump family and did not get paid upfront then all I can say is

    Untitled Image




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    #28217
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,529 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121498306#Comment_121498306

    Yeah, basically this.

    There is what's known in the construction sector as the "Trump discount". Essentially, Trump pays about two-thirds of what he owes knowing that it will take years and many thousands of dollars for aggrieved employees and contractors to recoup what they're owed. This isn't remotely a secret.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #28218
    check_six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121498348#Comment_121498348

    He is notorious for this, but I still don't understand why anyone would ever work for him. People may vote for him because he promises some nonsense, but that doesn't take money out of their pockets directly in that moment (this may be debateable). Contractors, suppliers, and lawyers know they are being ripped off as soon as they show up to work. What makes them do it? Do they think that this time it will be different?



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    #28219
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121498951#Comment_121498951

    I can only think that lawyers agree to represent him because it raises their profile and they can show this fact to future clients. They surely don't go into it with any expectation of getting paid. If they do, then they're almost as deluded as he is.



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    #28220
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121498981#Comment_121498981

    But what "profile" does it raise?

    They usually come out of it with significantly diminished legal standing because they've been forced to put forward reams of utter tripe as "arguments" in court.

    Just not seeing any upside to being known as one of Trumps legal team , unless there is a big market for "utterly deluded far right lunatics with lots of money and legal troubles"



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    #28221
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121499020#Comment_121499020

    Yeah, they're losing licenses, getting disbarred, sanctioned, fined, etc. Even the lawyers for Trumpsupplicants like loony Kari Lake are seeing their attorneys being disbarred, sanctioned, etc.

    John Eastman (Jan 6 insurrection legal theorist) is getting disbarred, and the disbarrment proceedings are interesting to the DOJ. Can't make this up: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/14/jack-smith-john-eastman-trump-records-00131823



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    #28222
    duck.duck.go
    Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭duck.duck.go


    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/dictator-trump-troops-border-1234929369/

    Huh I guess many Americans have forgotten why the fought a war of independence



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    #28223
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,695 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    A binder of raw intelligence, containing unredacted detail of US Intel and perhaps even more importantly, contains info related to the sources & methods used to clean the intel, missing.

    Trumpist's will still cheer their guy 🤦 Even though it is becoming crystal clear that their guy is a traitor.

    https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-russia-intelligence-trump-dg/

    The binder contained raw intelligence the US and its NATO allies collected on Russians and Russian agents, including sources and methods that informed the US government’s assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin sought to help Trump win the 2016 election, sources tell CNN.


    The intelligence was so sensitive that lawmakers and congressional aides with top secret security clearances were able to review the material only at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, where their work scrutinizing it was itself kept in a locked safe.

    Also

    The binder was last seen at the White House during Trump’s final days in office. The former president had ordered it brought there so he could declassify a host of documents related to the FBI’s Russia investigation. Under the care of then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, the binder was scoured by Republican aides working to redact the most sensitive information so it could be declassified and released publicly.


    The Russian intelligence was just a small part of the collection of documents in the binder, described as being 10 inches thick and containing reams of information about the FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia. But the raw intelligence on Russia was among its most sensitive classified materials, and top Trump administration officials repeatedly tried to block the former president from releasing the documents.


    The day before leaving office, Trump issued an order declassifying most of the binder’s contents, setting off a flurry of activity in the final 48 hours of his presidency. Multiple copies of the redacted binder were created inside the White House, with plans to distribute them across Washington to Republicans in Congress and right-wing journalists.



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    #28224
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121499020#Comment_121499020

    They're probably not thinking it through and/or they're naive enough to think that they'll win and that Trump will pay out.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #28225
    Sparko
    Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭Sparko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121499726#Comment_121499726

    Interesting that he seemingly followed the declassification procedures for these documents instead of the telepathic declassification he's been using as a defence for the documents they found in the Mar-A-Lago toilets.



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    #28226
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121500235#Comment_121500235

    And when he tried to, all the WH lawyers shat themselves , said "are you f*cking mental!!!" and blocked him over and over and sought to redact the crap out of the documents.

    Maybe that's why he decided to do something "different" when he was leaving in January...



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    #28227
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    BREAKING: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay $148 million for defaming Georgia election workers


    lol



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    #28228
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,551 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Brilliant.



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    #28229
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,357 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Brilliant, kind of. Firstly how much will they actually see? Does he have more than maybe a few million? How is it going to be extracted from him. Then, these women's lives have already been destroyed. Letting the great unwashed know that they 'have' this kind of money is going to have them plagued by chancers and beggars - in some cases the same people who attacked them.

    And how many cases are there of people winning huge amounts on lotteries and their lives being destroyed by that fact alone, not being able to cope with that kind of wealth.

    I feel very sorry for these two women, but they would possibly be best served by being helped start new lives with new identities. It would be at the expense of keeping contact with friends and family, but what hope have they of living normal lives from now on? If enough of the money is forthcoming they could maybe buy very private property and employ full time security, but what a sad way to live.



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    #28230
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,456 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67723332

    Now that’s an ouch!



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    #28231
    pleasant Co.
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    …the best people



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