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Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Seems to me that most of our politicians and councillors up here have" Taken the soup".

    Even the shinners who loved to use this phrase.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,795 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Sinn Fein will do whatever they can or say to get into power.

    They were certainties to walk into goverment as a protest vote until recently.

    Their stance on immigration is not in line with their target group who want forever homes.

    Their stance on immigration is not in line with normal working class citizens who are fed up.

    They are losing popularity week on week in current polls and they will know it.

    Do you think Sinn Fein don't have people on here and on other social media reading what people are saying and how they are getting less popular each day.

    Whoever talks about putting some sensible policies on immigration will walk into goverment in the next election, I have no idea who that will be but it won't be Sinn Fein as things stand and it won't be the national party before someone trys to deflect.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    This is the middle man company.

    Why are the government dealing with a hairdressing and beauty treatment company when it comes to housing asylum seekers?



  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    It’s almost like the template for them ppe contracts in Britain during Covid. Companies shoot up overnight and get millions.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,853 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    That Donegal video speaks volumes. I've seen the same locally in Rosslare.

    I can't help but think the local councillors and TDs are despising these situations. People will scoff and give the old "They're on the take" or "They're only out for themselves". But I can't see how this benefits them unless direct financial benefit for services and the like are in play.

    If the name of the game is to get re-elected incidents like killarney, rosslare, donegal must be complete vote killers. I'd 100% believe the vast majority of people in rural towns and villages are extremely anti immigration, for best or worse.

    You could see Martin Kenny in those Donegal videos. He has to tow the party line but you just know he'd give his left arm for it not to land on his doorstep.

    Sinn Fein are primed for a run but if the paint of "open borders SF" sticks and gains traction it will be winning and losing of an election.



  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭toucheswood


    It's pure and utter corruption at the heart of mass migration. Simple as.

    Lots of money, easily traced. Lots of damage, easily witnessed.

    None of the supposed benefits stand up to scrutiny, none.

    For a great old laugh, let's have a look at the refugee situation in these smaller towns.

    In many cases the majority are males. How could this not create a glaring gender imbalance? They aren't going to leave the towns and villages because there's a completely "unrelated" housing crisis across the nation. So what are these people going to do with themselves? Say 5 years from now, what exactly is the vision? 10 years?

    When the economy dips or dives, who's going to pay for the expensive contracts to house them?

    If the accommodation disappears, where are they going then, off into the woods?

    Of course there's no plan, we all know the joke by now. It's barely worth asking questions at all because the situation itself is an insult to intelligence. If someone were to ask you how to upend a country, how to collapse societal infrastructure and sow violent resentment in the most efficient way possible, this strategy is right up there at the top. From cities to tiny villages, the whole place has been laced.

    The next election cycle will put some spoofer group in charge that'll do nothing to reverse the damage. All of them are still firmly in the denial phase. Its the election after that again that matters, that's where to pay attention.



  • Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    where are all these young single males meant to find women in small rural towns in Ireland? Think about it. Are they going to find Syrian woman, Somali women, Afghan women ,Moldovan women ? Will Irish women want to date them and have relationships with them? No they won't.

    So what's going to happen? Think about it.........................



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,551 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    That was one meeting Martin Kenny will want to forget!

    SF hate having to talk about immigration and he was like a rabbit in the headlights trying to waffle his way out of it.

    Now next time some of them are being bussed into Dublin lets see if Government TDs from the area along with MacDonald, Murphy and Boyd Barrett will show up to take questions



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,431 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    So what's going to happen? 

    But then I hear there's a lot of that in Ballyshannon already



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Bus them into d4 and such. When they try bus them out again . Organise a protest and say these people should be house there. They need a home. Open your homes. Have heart. You heartless bastids.

    Scream out "Wont someone please think of the children!!." They need the good services provided in the more posh areas to get by. Lead by example ya rich douches.

    Jim here straight off the plane( he looks a bit like a jim anyways. It's what we decided to call him) who says hes 12 years young with his nearly full grown beard says through translator. He like your fancy house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭toucheswood


    Without going down the route of foregone insinuation, it is a very serious question with very serious consequences. You can't dramatically alter the gender balance of an area overnight and expect no impact. These are not bustling cities, in some cases they have two pubs to their name. With the housing crisis they aren't going anywhere ever, just like most of the rest of us.

    And who is stepping up to provide any sort of answer?

    Crickets is all you'll hear.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Augme



    They women will be all forced into being sex slaves and Sharia law will become compulsory in the village. Women, sorry the sex slaves, will be forced to wear burka whenever they are in public and every white male will be beheaded. Obviously.



  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭Scar001


    70+ visitors arriving into West Galway tonight I believe.

    ZERO consultation with county council.

    Organized from central government.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    That heckler was bang on the money. Extraordinary how SF have lost the ability to read the room of their own voters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Well if you remember at start of covid they were buying ventilators from China through a guy that did events management in Dubai, so it par for the course.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    Shinners since the election in 2020 thought it was just a case of waltzing in power at the next election.but 2023 has really shown them up as being exactly the same as the other parties.

    little did they think that open borders that they voted on in 1999 would come back to haunt them and lead to them dropping like a stone in the polls.shinners became posh to attract the middle class but forgot the working class areas that got them the 2020 showing.insulting the east wall grannies and calling them far right ,big mistake.

    more ballyshannon,more Rosslare and cashel needed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭toucheswood


    I'll repeat that this isn't some rhetorical joke.

    What do you seriously have to offer on the very real issue of dramatically changing the gender balance in small towns and villages during a housing crisis that prevents freedom of movement?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Augme


    Can you give me a name of a small village where this is allegedly happening?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭toucheswood


    Why are you asking me a question after not answering my question twice?

    I'll do you the courtesy of engaging your attempted deflection and state that nearly 70% of Asylum applicants, as per the ipo, are male.

    The recent blowup in ballyshannon was about a 100% male cohort of 90.

    So deflections done with, and asking for a third time, what do you have to say about the created gender imbalance in small towns and villages during a housing crisis that prevents freedom of movement? What are your thoughts, or solutions, or plans or ideas?

    Are you refusing to answer, or have no answer?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Augme


    No, I just wanted an example so I could properly answer your question, which I will do now. So we'll use Ballyshannon as the example since you referenced it. As you say yourself, there are 90 males who are being sent there. Now let's look at a few statistically facts about Ballyshannon.


    The current population is 2,246. As a aside, the population in 2002 was 2,715 so despite the population of Ireland growing in Ireland the population of Ballyshannon has reduced dramatically. But thats not really relevant to your question. So an extra 90 people will put the population of Ballyshannon at 2,336. That's increase in population of 4%. The current gender profile of Ballyshannon is 1, 066 males and 1180 females. The new population will be 1156. So there will still be more women then men but it will actually help narrow the gender balance of the town.


    So a question for you, what is so wrong about closing the male/female gender imbalance in a village?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Women and children being bombed. Save the men. Imagine saying that to a pink haired goon that keeps us all in check on the titanic. Hilaaaarious.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,384 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Socialist left-wing parties were against immigration in the past.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    If you don’t mind me interjecting ….. I believe the issue that touchwood , myself and anyone else who can see this situation clearly is that those newly arrived 90 males in Ballyshannon is simply the tip of the iceberg so to speak.

    Would you be so lax about those 90 men if this number inflates to 300 , 500 , how about 1000 males in ballyshannon ? Where would be the line in the sand , who would draw this line and when ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭MagicJohn


    Fear not, These guys will never talk about actual acceptable NUMBERS.

    Every economy has scarce resources, which need to be managed, this is ECON101.

    We need a referendum about immigration NUMBERS and it's relation to The bar of citizenship and it needs to be raised considerably.

    For example if I emigrated to Japan, I wouldn't be magically Japanese would I?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,720 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Could you provide a bit more detail on the location, please? (Or if anyone else on here knows.) Tried googling but the search is too generalised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭StrawbsM




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    We are talking here in an echo chamber, bar those NGO heads with a stake in the game, why are we not taking to the streets?( noone cares about being called far right now because we are all far right)

    Fook the politician's, they don't represent us. We won with water protests, why not on immigration?

    We can still fix this, at least before the hate bill!



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