Prime Time Gender Issues (READ OP BEFORE POSTING)

RTE PRIME TIME EXCERPT -

"A very large number are coming in a distressed state looking for help, and they're in a lot of pain and… they feel that they're in the wrong body," Dr Ní Dhálaigh said. "They'll often say, ‘I don't want to be in this female body. I don't want to be a girl. I'm not a girl, I'm a boy'."

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Irish author Helen Joyce talks about this topic which she says is akin to "a social contagion" of our times, whereby we see a 1000% increase in children & adolescents wanting to change sex and/or gender within a very short space of time! ... due in no short part to social media and its ability to spread ideas & theories at an astronomical speed. Her book "TRANS" discusses this topic with respect and in great detail.

Another perspective concentrates on the issue of anybody willing to question trans ideology or the Transitioning process!

Cancel culture & hysteria come to mind .... to which I can't help but see a very strong parallel / analogy with the opening chapter in Andrew Doyle's book on this very subject. 

THE NEW PURITANS - by Andrew Doyle 

An informative read for anybody who is dumbfounded, confused or has questions about this discussion, as it encapsulates so much of what's been talked about here (and the fear of speaking up)! 

Many YouTube video discussions & debates with Helen Joyce, see also the many talks with Andrew Doyle too in relation to this social contagion or "epidemic" that we face.

*The Tavistock scandal is a story in itself.

Hope all this this helps.

I expressed objection to such intense, intrusive investigation which is quite different to your suggestion that I objected to "medical & psychiatric investigations ahead of treatment". You're running up quite a series of false allegations in this discussion.

No, I haven't, and I won't be reading material from TERFs. I don't quite understand the obsession of some Irish people with the goings on at one particular clinic in the UK which has been closed and replaced by other services. Strange how PT mentioned that it had been closed but didn't mention that it had been replaced by other, bigger services.

I’m fairly new to Helen Joyce, but I see nothing in your post to say she is “Nazi”, basically some anonymous internet commentators saying it. I could be wrong, but you shouldn’t assume hateful things about people without any proof.

lots of searching online, and still nothing. I found this article online where she addresses the activists attacks and slanders when someone tries to argue a point in this issue.

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/august-september-2023/how-to-survive-twitter/

That's as silly and stupid as saying gay parents will make their kids gay 🤣🤣🤣

Helen Joyce who wants to eliminate trans people

She admitted she wants trans people eliminated, enjoys stamping on pride progress flags... There's lots of proof

https://x.com/joss_prior/status/1532511819583062025?s=20

There's video evidence of it. She said it.

https://x.com/joss_prior/status/1532511819583062025?s=20

and this is the problem with this war

God bless ye brave soldiers.

So if I said I wanted to reduce rates of disability in Ireland, you'd think that meant I wanted to kill disabled people? Like the Nazis?

TBF that's pretty much the argument of anti choicers against allowing couple to terminate pregnancies of disabled fetuses - is that what you believe? That they want to murder the disabled?

It's more complex than that though: the majority of children with gender dysphoria at the beginning puberty have got over it by the end of puberty. In fact it's likely that a degree of gender dysphoria is commonplace during puberty, and is exacerbated by factors like autism, or being the victim of sexual abuse, or just living in a highly sexualised environment (which for many girls creates a sort of semi-constant low level sexual abuse by objectification).

The exception, those who don't get over it naturally, is when children are treated with puberty blockers. In that case the rates are reversed, and the vast majority don't get over their dysphoria, and progress to cross sex hormones and in many cases to surgery. Since it's experimental, and even those who set up the puberty-blocker treatment procedure admit that they can't really tell in advance who will continue to experience dysphoria and who won't, it's probable that the treatment itself increases the rates of patients wanting surgery later on.

It's not a neutral "time-stopper" as was promised. Which is why the numbers of children being offered surgery (or not) is not the only problem, since non surgical treatments during childhood increase the chances of going for surgery later.

Did kids have gender identity crises before social media and mass communication? I often wonder about this.

Except that Tavistock was replaced by other services, doing pretty much the same thing.

Is it? It's something Prime Time sort of implied by talking to people who looked young (but were still in their 20s from what I can tell) but never actually said this was the case. I ask because honestly I'd be very very surprised if surgical treatment was offered to minors. (And not something I'd be in favour of either despite being on the "pro-trans" side of the fence). As far as I'm aware, the treatment on offer if needed is puberty blockers. And they're generally offered because the alternative is a suicidal minor.

Can you point to any definition of affirmative care approach that refers to no questioning please? The definitions that I'm seeing are quite different from your claim.

https://cps.ca/en/documents/position/an-affirming-approach-to-caring-for-transgender-and-gender-diverse-youth

Concerns about slander from the person making up false allegations. Hilarious.

Where have you seen surgery being offered to teens and young people?

Is there any chance of grounding this discussion with even the slightest grasp on reality.