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So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    You couldn't lead by example.

    Elon has followers (no matter how deluded) . He could lead by example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm pretty sure 90% of the obsession is he's "anti woke"... When he acts hypocritically etc, Cordell tends to avoid it or downplay.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I shared a literal article outlining how and in what ways these billionaires have exponentially lopsided, negative contributions to our climate problems; a globally sized piece of hypocrisy from Must in particular, whose own aspirations in the past have been a vocal determination to "save the world" - be through electric cars, a boast he could solve world hunger (remember that little one?), and that stupid-áss Martian colony supposedly the Plan(et) B. But when it counts, in the here and now, the man shirks any sense of responsibility for his increased footprint on our planet.

    It's plain to see, but good luck getting this whataboutist trying to admit it - especially as they've revealed themselves as someone here just to wind-up and take any contrary position. I had suspected it in the past, especially in light of stupid stuff like their rejection of basic science re. Mars - but good they at least outed themselves two times over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I can see that pretty much every post on the last page has something to say about me, my reasons and my past posts. I'm honoured.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,906 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Everything will start moving this way, Tesla is just one of the first but the parts will become standardised and then everyone will do so. The existing wiring looms were never designed to handle the amount of electronics in a modern car and add a lot of unnecessary complexity that moving to a 48V/databus system will simplify.

    Theatre will catch up eventually it tends to be even more conservative (mostly due to last minute fixes and issues being able to be solved by a patch or getting out the soldering iron), but the complexity of what theatres want to deliver will eventually outweigh the advantage of a simple low data rate star wiring layout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    From Bluesky and the Sunday Business Post. Here is a list of things X mods aren’t allowed remove apparently. My usual rule of thumb is if even half of this is true, it’s shocking.


    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,912 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    John Oliver did his show on Musk last night.

    Here is the full show on his Youtube page




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Bet he tries to sue or something, Oliver is a pretty large audience and he's not the kind to take jokes about him well. Or just general exposure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The European commission going after X now. Can't see this not being a shitload of problems for platform.






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,592 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Elmo previously threatened to pull out of the EU, this may make him do it. His fans will be very upset at not being able to give him money and drool like lapdogs in his replies, but the rest of the continent won't really notice.

    It's not like they have substantial ad revenue left in Europe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Well worth 30 mins of anyone’s time. Very funny but also insightful too.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    "Free speech for me, but not for thee"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,307 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Well this just looks like its going to cause many more people to impersonate him



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    Love John Oliver. As you say he's insightful and really funny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    The clip from the spacex employee describing Musk calling him at 3 in the morning, belittling him and screaming at him is horrendous. And this behaviour was expected and accepted by the employees. Describing Musk figuring out each employee’s weakness and using this to bully them. Inhuman treatment IMO.

    How anyone could work in a business like that is beyond me.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Tesla and SpaceX would - and may still well be - very niche industries with a probably higher-than-average type of employees with highly skilled skillsets. I daresay the reason why people put up with the abuse was that alternative gainful employment simply didn't exist. Plus, shítty employment conditions just seems to be how reality is in America.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    There was a conversation earlier in this thread talking about the Twitter employees and their (lack of) willingness to put up with his "extreme working" nonsense.

    In SpaceX there might be a feeling that as an engineer working there you are genuinely working on something ground-breaking and potentially historically significant - Being part of the team that puts a human on Mars might make you overlook less than stellar working conditions.

    Tesla might have had a bit of that in the early years but not so much any more and Twitter definitely doesn't have that so those employees have zero interest in going the extra mile for a Tyrant.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Isn't X a private company that can set their own community standards as they so wish? Oh I forgot that only applied when they were still run by leftists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Hopefully they will be finished in the EU in the end (I really can't see how not, when you read that type of story).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    They can absolutelt set their own community standards as they so wish. And people can still point out how they disagree with those standards, or how awful those standards are.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,249 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Leftists would generally want more regulation and argue there should be limits.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    He can do what we wants, I for one welcome a world with two 4chans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    What the hell are you talking about? Make sense, man!

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    They can to an extent however a fair few of those are illegal in plenty of EU countries. Proliferation of a load of hate speech along with a nicer environment for white supremacists is providing a breeding ground for criminals. And honestly the fact that anyone would look at that list and say, this was the perfectly fine stuff that "leftists" were blocking from the platform says a lot about the state of the right wing these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Forget who said it but in the US Civil Rights died with the failure to enact strict gun control after Sandy Hook. The right of a gun owner was greater than anyone else. Democracy teetered for 4 years after 2016 and died on January 6.

    The online world is just reflecting that. 4chan etc are now essentially twitter - mainstream. Politicians getting elected on the back of supporting Qanon. They seem resigned to a Trump dictatorship there now. A puppet for the usual shadowy interests. I think I’ll just go and hide…

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    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    As always I chuckle at the idea of giant mega-corporations, straight outta dystopian fiction these days, who are also apparently Hard Left fanatics.

    And even if the response is, well obviously what's meant is social Leftism and not economic Leftism, then even that doesn't make sense: why wouldn't a giant corporation try to appeal to as broad a market as possible? That's literally Marketing 101. You appeal to as broad a demographic as possible who might use your product - including any and all demographics hitherto ignored (see the Pink Pound as it was/is known)

    It's such an obvious bit of business logic: of course Disney, Twitter - and whoever else are now deemed scary Big Woke - are gonna try to appear to be socially liberal 'cos like it or not, the Western world trends more liberal than ever. It looks good for companies to appeal towards that liberalism, even if it's just tokenism writ large. It's never earnest, never quantitative where it counts (Disney like to look liberal but stop short at actually having gay characters front & centre in its movies), but it's stupid for any company not to cast its net out as wide as possible.

    Same with Twitter back in the day: it trended left 'cos people by and large trend left ATM. Which of course angered all those who aren't and don't like gays or PoC getting uppity; reading conspiracy and devilment when a much simpler explanation existed. And of course they're now cheering like maniacs 'cos Musk has dismantled the kind of basic moderation even a relatively soft touch place like Boards would have. From day zero of the Musk Era we had folks cheering only because it upset the "blue rinse brigade" and no other reason, or sharing idiots memes of "triggered" liberals.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,249 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    There's a big issue with gun control in the states in that there's no legal way of banning the likes of the 'military style assault weapon' easily and just banning that sort of weapon. There's no one thing that makes them what they are; they'd have to ban all semi-automatic weapons and that'd probably be most guns in the states. It'd be the signal that the preppers and their ilk were waiting for.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,249 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Somehow when I first typed 'military style assault weapon' into my phone it autocorrected to 'military style sausage season'.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Musk demonstrating that his impulsive childishness is still driving decisions: he has axed Disney+ from Tesla in-vehicle entertainment system; presumably in response to Disney dropping advertising from Twitter. Probably small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, but it's all so stupidly petty.

    This week, Tesla made an abrupt change to its in-vehicle entertainment system interface, appearing to cut Disney+ out of the rotation of apps that could be accessed by users. Teslarati initially reported that the car company appeared “to have axed Disney+ from its vehicles.” The site later updated its reporting, writing that, according to Tesla, the Disney+ icon had merely been removed from the car’s Theater screen for “owners who haven’t accessed it.”




  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Gussoe


    Why should he promote their app in Tesla vehicles after they pulled their advertising on X?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,307 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    He doesn't have to but its a childish and pointless maneuver that like is pointed out in the article only hurts his own Tesla customers, Disney wont feel it at all.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    He's not promoting their app: the app is being pulled from an internal operating system that has a range of apps for the driver. It's a demonstrably petty move, and quantifiably removes quality of experience from Tesla's OS 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    Because Tesla is a different company from X. The CEO should make the best decisions for the company he's in charge of. I'm sure the board members would be pretty interested in how pulling the Disney app benefits Tesla.

    Loads of companies have pulled their advertising from X. Is he going to pull all of their services?

    (Although having a video player app on a screen in the front of a car seems weird to me anyway).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    He's free to do that if he wants but if he continues to make decisions based entirely on the fact he is a thin-skinned man-child then I suspect he'll find interest in his products will continue to decline. Tesla and Twitter are separate companies. There is no valid business reason for this decision - it's pure pettiness.

    Once again I'm stuck by how hilarious it is that this gobshíte's fan club have the cheek to go about calling other people snowflakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I was thinking, I really hope the Disney+ app is for kids in the back seat to watch and not for the driver to watch but these days you can't be sure. Oh well, just have to hurry up on those mandatory hi-viz for pedestrians I guess.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    To be fair , I don't think those apps can work when the car is moving.

    They are more for passing the time waiting for your car to charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,565 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Gussoe


    How much did advertising did Disney pay?

    I bet it's a lot.

    When that is revoked abruptly, you can expect counter measures to be taken.

    That's not being childish, it's more like going to war.



  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Gussoe


    Did you read the article?

    It wasn't pulled, it was removed from the main screen for users that didn't use the app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It's not promoting their app, it's about Tesla offering that service to their customers. Nobody is going to join Disney+ so they can watch it in their car, it's about people who already have Disney+ being able to watch it in their car on those occasions where they're going to be parked while charging or for the kids in the back or whatever.

    There's more benefit to Tesla in enabling their drivers to use Disney+ in their vehicles (presuming they can also use Netflix, Prime, Max etc) than there is to Disney.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Who cares about how much advertising they paid? Anyone with any common sense at all is going to be wary of buying anything from a company that has a feature altered because the owner threw a tantrum.

    If the snowflake-in-chief wants to continue to make idiotic decisions on a whim then fair play to him. Anything that expedites his descent into irrelevancy is a plus as far as I'm concerned.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Gussoe


    People buy Teslas because of their perceived prestige value, not because the apps they host on their silly screens.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    In a different company...

    Tesla and Twitter are not the same company.

    Musk using Tesla to penalise the actions of Disney "against" Twitter is a bit weird tbh.

    He can do what he wants , just as Disney can but people can still view it as petty and childish.

    Also he's not really penalising Disney here , he's penalising Tesla owners by removing/limiting their ability to use the application which makes it even more stupid.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Competitors go to war, Tesla and Twitter are separate companies;, pulling Disney out of spite is just a pointless riposte because Musk's actions have made Twitter unattractive to advertisers.

    Musk openly singles out Bob Iger at that conference where Musk declared "fúck advertisers", so for someone affecting disinterest he has a funny way of showing it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Gussoe


    Disagree with your first sentence.

    Putting the app on the main screen IS promoting the app.

    Which by the way, according the article linked wasn't blocked or uninstalled, it was just removed from the main screen for users that didn't use the app.



  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Gussoe


    Please read the actual article YOU linked.

    According to Tesla, the Disney+ icon had merely been removed from the car’s Theater screen for “owners who haven’t accessed it.”

    You have made a big song and dance about a big nothing. And I also suggest that the website you have linked is engaging in click bait.



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