New Acres scheme

Bass Reeves · 10-12-2023 6:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121479721#Comment_121479721

That was what Teagasc said to me about things like owl boxes or Tree planting.

No way an appeal on a dangerous tree would be disallowed. As well if the tree you neighbour was unsuitable and he had a valid reason I suspect any appeal would be allowed. If you can find a H&S reason there is no way it will not be allowed

Lime Tree Farm · 10-12-2023 7:44pm

Five little owls

Blinking at the setting sun,

AN INSPECTOR CAME ALONG

And then there were none

Grueller · 10-12-2023 8:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121479805#Comment_121479805

That may be Bass, but your advice to someone to go ahead, on an anonymous internet forum, based on MOST inspectors is dangerous advice to give or take. Thats all I said, nothing about appeals, H&S etc.

My experience of appeals hasn't been wonderful over a couple of schemes so I'd personally be trying to avoid them ic possible. A recipe for (severely) delayed payment in my experience.

Sami23 · 11-12-2023 12:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121479721#Comment_121479721

Jasus I better put up the Owl Boxes so. Have them made since the summer but never got around to putting them up

Packrat · 11-12-2023 1:30pm

Is there a tier jump/mor likelihood of getting in if you pick rare breeds in the current tranche does anyone know?

I'm trying to guage demand for rare breeds next spring..

kerrysoul · 11-12-2023 2:01pm

AFAIK rare breeds is a tier 1 action, and you must also be a member of the breed society. Pg 8 of the ACRES specification document lists all the other tier 1 items.

tanko · 11-12-2023 2:03pm

Yeah, rare breeds are a Tier 1 option the same as organic farming etc so these options give priority access to Acres.

PoorFarmer · 11-12-2023 2:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121482462#Comment_121482462

Think you have to be a member of whatever rare breed society when you submit the application. My planner asked for my proof of membership when I applied. I'm not sure if this means you have to have the animals in your herd at the time of application or not.

TheClubMan · 11-12-2023 8:33pm

Is it possible to pick actions from Tier 1, 2 and 3 and throw them together for your plan? If I have at least one action from Tier 1, does that mean I am a Tier 1 applicant and have priority access?

Tileman · 11-12-2023 8:47pm

Yes that is my understanding.

massey 265 · 11-12-2023 9:23pm

If your picking a tier 1 action to qualify for priority access to acres eg rare breeds etc,its very important that this action is carried out as per the acres spec for the duration of the acres contract,as in the case of an inspection this action that qualified you for priority acess if not completed as per the spec can result in expulsion from scheme with reinbursement of all acres payment already drawn down.Other actions from tier 2 and 3 if found in non compliance will result in payment penalty on these actions only .

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121484265#Comment_121484265

TheClubMan · 11-12-2023 9:30pm

When choosing to plant a new hedgerow - can it be planted on an existing field boundary that currently has no hedgerow only wild grass and the odd gorse bush?

massey 265 · 11-12-2023 10:26pm

From what i gather a new hedgerow in acres scheme can only be sown in an area that you have control of both sides of hedge row eg you own both sides of proposed hedgerow area or hedge row is sowed alongside roadway enabelling access to both sides for maintainance,also said area should not have existing hedge or hedgerowto be eligible for this action

older by the day · 16-12-2023 10:47am

Got my hedge planted yesterday. 1000 plants /200m. I'm stiff today and not in a good way

Water John · 16-12-2023 3:11pm

85% payment in. Well 'older by the day' is quite appropriate. I'm facing 2,600.

Tileman · 16-12-2023 3:19pm

I had the planner out here last week to plan a submission. Had planned to plant a hedge 100m as part of it. He rang me during week to say I can’t plant a hedge as in in hen wader area??. Also couldn’t claim for low intensive for the field I was putting the orchard into.

way too many restrictions in this scheme. I think at best I might be able to get about €3500 out of it. Barely worth it for the shite and restrictions involved.

older by the day · 16-12-2023 3:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121503024#Comment_121503024

But that's 3500 by 5. That's 17500. That's the way I was thinking when my back was aching yesterday

OrangeBadger · 16-12-2023 4:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121502267#Comment_121502267

I went into advisor start of December and he said would have to wait to get approval before I could start doing any work on the NPIs and that it probably wouldn't be for a few months. How long did it take for you to get approval?

jimini0 · 16-12-2023 6:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121502267#Comment_121502267

Collected my hedging earlier. Goin to be a busy couple of days over the Christmas. Have to fence first then plant the hedge. What method did you use to plant them?

MIKEKC · 16-12-2023 6:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121503116#Comment_121503116

That's 3500 gross. Take tax of that and it's very small

tanko · 16-12-2023 7:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121503777#Comment_121503777

Did you bother with Acres yourself?

older by the day · 16-12-2023 8:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121503268#Comment_121503268

I have a "special river" running through my land so I got in when it first came out.

I fenced the 1.5 m and am only planting now. I've the 200 trees as well.

I got a neighbor with a small track machine with rubber tracks. It fairly boggy but didn't do any damage. He dug a little trench with a foot bucket. I just stuck them in back of the spade on the stuff he dug up. And stepped around them. The trees are going around ditches and a wet corner all in plot marked out. The shrubs were not bad the covers were expensive.

1000 Whitethorn, 200 trees with covers and stakes were 1590

Is that good or bad I don't know

MIKEKC · 16-12-2023 8:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121503811#Comment_121503811

Yes in CP. Hoping payment will be around 7000. NPIs. Will be extra but will improve the place rather than leave extra money. The bird boxes will leave a good few quid

older by the day · 16-12-2023 9:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121503777#Comment_121503777

Mind and feed a fr bull calf for three weeks and get 25 euro in the mart and pay tax off that.

Water John · 16-12-2023 9:52pm

Older by the day, whitethorn slips 60 cent.(mine were €1.30 because their older). €600. 200 trees at €1.30,(option sessile oak +50 cent) €260

200 tree guards and stakes, your price seems to be €730. I'm paying €1.93/guard. Stake 75 cent each. I'm going to use two stakes on each guard, because of exposure.

Your price looks similar to mine.

Danzy · 16-12-2023 10:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121482830#Comment_121482830

No but you have to be a member of a society at time of application.

Packrat · 16-12-2023 10:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121504363#Comment_121504363

Correct.

ruwithme · 16-12-2023 10:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121503767#Comment_121503767

I don't doubt you'll enjoy that bit of work there & take great satisfaction from it when it's done .isn't it sad though what farming has been reduced to with some ridiculously stupid deadlines & lads with paye job's having to do above on Christmas holidays ,sundays, morning's/evening's, nights, all for a pity full amount of money.

Doubt many in the civil/ public service (medics guards aside) will be active after next Friday till new year.

MIKEKC · 16-12-2023 11:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121504179#Comment_121504179

Yes but that's the by product. To have that calf you will have a cow leaving at least e1000. Profit. We have to take the bad as well as the good

older by the day · 17-12-2023 10:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121504534#Comment_121504534

And when IL be dead and gone, maybe my grand children will walk along the road and wonder who planted the big mountain ash trees with the red berries or who planted that hedge with the white flowers in may. And get paid for it too!

I'm being glib, I agree with your point that the pay is very small. If you consider that land is 10000 an acre. As well as I was in REPS1 and getting over 8000 for a bit of fencing and plant 30 trees. I'm doing over the double the work for half the money for this one.

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