Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Bad for the image?

Is a family more likely or less likely to move into a village with 70 migrant males roaming it?

What makes you think that they don't declare a country currently? Deliberate destruction of documents is simply a technique to delay processing.

I think personally that there should be two streams for processing. The ones that have documents go into the express stream. The ones that don't go into the other stream. Put all arrivals into the same conditions for 90 days, after which they go into more stringent conditions - less money or into dedicated facilities with minimum basics. They can stay in those facilities until their applications are processed.

The logic would be that the ones with documentation should be processed within the 90 day period and would be at a different stage by then. Let the ones who are deliberately delaying their processing enjoy that extra time in minimum basic facilities.

Obviously, the real solution is to process them all quickly.

(For those tub-thumping about people with no documentation being allowed in, you are going to have to understand that that is explicitly provided for under international agreements. You are not going to change the fact that they will be let in. You are wasting your own energy and time, and taking oxygen from those who might propose actual realistic solutions).

The hotel in question is said to have been closed for a year. Perhaps difficulty in getting staff? So you could hardly blame the immigrants for that ......... unless you were blaming a lack of them for the inability to find staff.........

You are obviously making the assumption that rocjohn is white because he's Irish. One could consider that to be quite racist as it implies that black people can't be Irish.

Please do show me where I said law should be selectively applied or where I said people should be exempt. I didn't. I si pay stated what I think should happen to an Irish citizen who refuses to show his passport as a form of protest again our immigration policies. Also, there is a provision for someone to give a reasonable excuse as to why they csnt show their passport, I'm fairly sure a protest against immigration policies is a reasonable excuse though.

I'd suggest you read my post again so you can fully understand what I actually said.

Perhaps this hotel was closed, but there are perfectly functioning hotels now taking contracts to house refugees instead of tourists, as they are guaranteed full occupancy.

>50% of Donegals hotel rooms are occupied by refugees. What effect do you think that has on tourism?

I don't know. But the post I responded to appeared to be about the arson one that has been closed for a year. One would imagine that it was a loss to the local economy. I can't know what reason it was closed for but we are all aware that accommodation has been very scarce and expensive here for a while for tourists so there must have been some reason to forgo that for a year.

One would have to imagine that if it was bought to house refugees, the owners would hardly have sat on it for the year before offering it. I would suspect that there was some other reason (not related to it being used as an IP location) why it was shuttered for that year. The first guess would be that the owners couldn't make it work financially, even with higher prices. There is apparently a shortage of staff in that industry too so perhaps that was a reason.

I assume moving about aimlessly (i.e. roaming), which is exactly all they'll have to do.

To all the people who feel we should be welcoming economic migrants from all corners of the world do they seriously believe that we can take any amount that make their way here? .It is completely unsustainable to take an unlimited number in .A lot will never integrate here and with enough problems for our own people and migrants that are working here we cannot cope with a load more of welfare cases .It's not cheap to live here and most of these people will never be financially independent legally at least .

And that's fair enough. Leave them with their one pub and a few houses and burnt out former hotel and priortise them accordingly when making needs-based decisions for future investment on infrastructure etc.

The place may be small, but at one stage it seems to have been able to support a reasonable sized hotel.

The ship has sailed on investment and infrastructure by this government. They are more interested in p!ssing money away on frivolous nonsense like 225 million aid packages for climate change.

Wait and you'll see, the area is now 2/2 on rejecting the governments suicidal immigration policies. Everyone will want to live in such areas.

Where is a commuter village with one pub and no shops??

Oughterard has plenty of pubs and plenty of shops. It even has a Tesco.

I am somewhere in the middle about refugees. They have to go somewhere and they fled into Europe and the load has to be spread around and then I think we are taking too much.

What happened in Galway is a disgrace and it's so mindless. Burning a hotel down just to keep people out from it. That's so very wrong.

I'm opmististic and maybe the war in the Ukraine might end (I hope) and Ukraine refugees might start going back home and some of the refugee centres could be used as homeless shelters.

Burning a hotel down is not the answer and people responsible for it are scumbags.

My own position would be that the powers that be are far too slow at processing them, and don't seem to have that much urgency about moving them on if and when denied asylum.

But I do understand that they do have to be processed - even if they are chancers. We don't have discretion just to summarily say "no" if they arrive and say they are claiming IP.

It also had an awful murder a few years back which may have coloured some views locally.

I have already posted that there is no excuse for burning down anywhere that is totally wrong no excuse at all.