Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Strictly by percentage increase in population Dublin is not doing its bit. Some rural town have doubled their population. If half a million asylum seekers were dropped into Dublin overnight then they would know what other areas are dealing with.

I believe that was directed at you - my point made sense and was actually related to what we are discussing at the time. The only similarity between my point and your is that they both involved Hitler and the nazi party in Germany. I’ll reiterate our government crying far right every single time something they disagree with happens is exactly the same as how Hitler used the Jews and communists as boggymen to ram through certain policy’s and carry out certain actions.

The burning of the Reichstag is a specific example directly comparable to the burning of the hotel in Galway.

Hitler blamed the teenage communist van luben without any real evidence at the time.

Mcentee/Varadkar blames the far right without any real evidence. The far right is a boogyman being spouted around by government to shame people into thinking like they are thinking.

November 24th 1999

Micheál Martin addressed the Dail stating that there should be "no place in our debates" for the "naïve extreme" of thinking we can "manage any number of refugees."

• “I would have to say that there are an increasing number of people who are casually bandying around the word “racist”. This does nothing to foster an informed and balanced discussion of the issues. We should also have no place in our debates for the naïve extremes of those who think we can have completely open borders and manage any number of refugees and those who would exclude all non-EU immigration.“

Martin is a weak little man.

So what are you saying... that the government burnt that building down and are blaming it on Far right ?

Bit farfetched , don't you think ?🤔

Yes .

And I think after all this you could admit maybe it wasn't such a clear cut (as in straightforward

example) .

Goodnight .

Totally clear if your not trying to add things together that aren’t there to paint people as right leaning because it suits your own point -

re goodnight:

I’ll just gently remind you that you tagged me when you were quoted by another poster - I was already finished going around in circles with you but it must have annoyed you that I was able to corrolate behaviors of one of the worst men in history with the party lines being spouted out around the country by our so called representatives.

there was a guy on Claire Byrne this morning trying to dispel some of the myths around the current situation regarding gaining asylum.He said 30% of applications were successful and that 30% of appeals are also successful,He was then asked are the unsuccessful applicants then deported ,he says no ,that deportations had stopped during Covid and have not resumed.So Leo assured us today there are processes in place and not to worry but the key component of that process appears to be defunct.

What number, for example, would the Galway folks have accepted in this recent arson case?

What was the magical number that would have prevented a fire?

How could anyone possibly answer such a question. We don't even know who started the fire and their motivations.

Well you don't remember detail very well I can advise you. I can agree with you on one thing, our 20-30 yr olds don't particularly blame immigrants at the moment anyway. They only know the difficulties of the moment. But my generation understands it, as when we were starting out on life and in relationships at their age, it was very easy to rent accommodation in/near Dublin for modest enough rents. No queues and what's more, we could save to buy in time.

Of course refugees and asylum seekers are not the sole cause of the rental crisis but they are a notable contributory factor. They have to be as they must be housed somehow and when they do move out of provided accomm, they take up other rentals. They are competition.

And this is largely why I'm concerned about the issues arising. It affects us as a family and it's affecting many other families.

You could have just said arson isnt right under any circumstances.

it’s makey up… very few are deported

https://www.newstalk.com/news/asylum-seekers-80-of-those-ordered-to-leave-remain-unaccounted-for-1448723#:~:text=New%20Freedom%20of%20Information%20figures,which%20makes%20up%20around%207%25.

A Sleeveen!

that has been discussed back in the early days of the ukrainian crisis. the government commanding mobile homes. you would have no choice. they are making a pigs ear of this.