Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Incredibly, the debate here around immigration seems to be far more toxic and bitter than it is in Britain. Riots, arson attacks, street blockades....none of this stuff appears to be happening cross channel.

Are the Irish authorities being way too soft on this type of protest and anti-social behaviour? Perhaps it's not happening in the UK because they know the police would come down on them like a ton of bricks.

Because immigration is nothing new in the UK and the majority of people wouldn't even think about it.

There are peoples of many different ethnicities living there for generations.

The only people talking about immigrants in the UK are brexiteers and the National Front/ British National party types

Nope. You are just rambling now, your post makes no sense

I just read an article in the Times about a fella called 'Giorgi' from Georgia. Google giorgi destroyed passport and it's there.

Was interesting read. So basically everyone knows the story he said, destroy your passport and apply for asylum. He flew in from Spain. He was giving out that the Ukrainians are treated way better in City west. After 6 months you can work while you are waiting for an asylum decision.

He was getting €700 a week on the buildings . Stuck it out for a while but went back home . Got a €1000 return integration grant too( not too sure if that's courtesy of our taxes)

Surely a proper visa system for Georgian should be implemented. That would reduce asylum applications by 20% straight away. If they become unemployed let them claim welfare until their stamps allow.

Fair play to him for working ,earning a few Bob and going back home with a wedge in his back pocket.

On the other hand we have Roman Nosenko and Mikhailo Skriaha, 2 Ukrainian lads in Donegal caught selling smokes out of the car. Both around 40 and not working. What a useless pair of wasters. Run away from war, come here to make a quick buck. Chancers like that should not be receiving full dole.

Again with the UK comparison.

It'll f things up alright, for a while. Carriers won't be long about getting their s**t togeather if they're losing 30/40 mins per turnaround or unable to move due to new directive - Word will soon go out too - 'You can't trash your passport landing in Ireland anymore'

We have no prison spaces for convicted criminals, never mind IPAs.

Airport staff could easily do a quick check for passports once passengers get off the plane on the tarmac or in the boarding bridge. This would not impact turnaround for airlines.

Another thing is that asylum seekers will often get off the flight with passports and then dispose of them in the toilets before they get to passport control. They then refuse to say what flight they got off. The strange thing is that the passport control have no real way of confirming where a passenger came from. The fact that this can happen shows how little is being done to stop this.

Why can passport control not check camera footage of people getting off flights? Why no staff at the gates checking passports right after passengers leave the plane? Why are there areas between the arrival gate and passport control where passengers can throw away their ID?

There are so many easy things they could do to reduce the amount of undocumented arrivals, but they dont take these measures. It's almost like they want it to happen.

yes, detain people not convicted of any crime in prison. totally allowed.

Oh and prison places which we have loads of. obviously

I'm just back from the north of England and that's not true at all, immigration came up many times in conversation, and it wasn't brought in by me but the conversations were always civilised, no-one was called far right or anything like that, there was an exchange of views some from people of colour I suppose I'll call them though I don't really like that description however one would be surprised at some of the views, a lot of British whatever ethnicity being fair minded draw a distinction between those who are there legally to make a life and those who arrive illegally on boats, containers and trucks and other methods, a distinction which is often shied away from round these parts.... then again that was in Sheffield not in cosmopolitan London which is virtually another country

Ireland's population has increased by 2% in a year because of immigration. Perhaps they would have been talking immigration in Leeds if the UK's population had increased by 2% or 1.34 million people (over the same time period) with it all facilitated by the UK government.

Entering the country illegally is a crime, and being detained until returned is what normally happens in any other country that protects its borders. Somehow in EU we have forgotten how to do that.

Create a welfare wonderland and wonder why they keep coming. Its failing outrageous hotel and property prices, enough is enough... unless they are working age and work, we don't need them...

you missed the part where they claim asylum.

Gardai no longer perform passport control duties at Dublin airport (the rest of our airports they're still there). They also do remain behind the scenes at Dublin and they have to authorise any decisions taken about refusals to enter the country as far as I know.

The people in Dublin airport checking passports are department of justice civil servants. They don't decide anything relating to asylum seekers or temporary protection applicants - this is done by the International Protection Office.

Earlier this year I travelled to a country that would have much less issues with passport discarding than we do. My passport was checked, my photo and finger prints were taken, and they asked for my address while there. This is much stricter than our passport control, which is almost pointless. Our lot need to be given more powers to detain and check asylum seekers' finger prints and return them to their country of origin.

We need proper detention facilities in our airports to hold people until we figure out who they are. It's absolute madness that an asylum seeker can be walking our streets while we wait for their finger prints to be checked.