Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

I just did. Section 2 (2) ( c) of the Immigration Act 2004, states that nothing in the Act shall derogate from section 9(1) of the Refugee Act 1996.

they do take fingerprints, and photographs.

And the Dublin regulations allows them to be sent back if they have previously claimed asylum in another country.

Welfare isn’t available for everyone….there is such a thing as means testing.

for everything from social welfare to medical cards.

The bottom line here is the type of violent attacks ..... that amount to arson, terrorism, intimidation and thuggery .... have no place in any decent society ... burning cars, buses, trams, police cars and hotels is criminality and solves nothing ...

The irony of all this is these far right thugs burn down places and intimidate our streets stating they are doing so to 'get undesirables out' .... yet they are the true undesirables .... and if one is capable of setting fire to hotels, cars, trams and buses what else are these filth capable of? Killing someone? Very likely is the answer ...

The refugee issue needs to be solved in a civilised manner and will not be solved by a gang of thugs ... and if there was no refugee issue these far right thugs and those who spread misinfo and conspiracy would latch onto something else ... they did it with Covid and are obsessed with gays and trans people too ... and with just about anything and everyone they disagree with ...

The spreaders of rags like the Irish Light need to be reined in ... disinformation and lies presented as the truth need to be confronted ... this is not free speech but the abuse of it ... these people have one main purpose ... to spread lies, misinfo, exaggerations and propaganda obo the lunatic fringes that often try and present themselves as pro-life yet issue death threats to those who disagree with them ...

I am not saying all migrants are saints or that Ireland can take in all migrants or that this issue does not anger people who cannot find accommodation ... there are legit concerns and there are both advs and drawbacks in every situation ... these issues need to be discussed by rational people not thugs who are ok beating people up and burning things ... but the evidence is there about who the real threat is ... that is thugs willing to commit arson, street attacks, beatings and other forms of terrorism ....

They need to be discussed and explained ... I feel the govt and its draconian lockdown policies during Covid played right into the hands of the far right crowd ... and ever since they have done the same with all the other issues ... when any govt goes ahead with their own agenda and does not bring along the people then a vacuum is formed ... and usually the far right take adv of the situation ... exactly what happened with the Shah of Iran in the 1970s .... then the far right there became so strong they could hide behind a priest dying of heart failure and cancer and take over Iran in 1979 ... the Shah should have addressed issues and didn't ... the current govt here need to do same before the far right do get as powerful as the Iranian version ... Iran still remains ruled by a tyrannical far right and by the same guy who took over in 1981 after he snuffed out all other opposition to him ... Hitler did the same thing in Germany ... and there are countless others ... problems get neglected here all the time like housing and we can all see that ... refugees then get the brunt of it and the far right who would be opposed to everything except their own narrow agenda dictate what Ireland should and should not be .... take the E, L and D out of Ireland ironically you get the name of affore mentioned country ruled by the far right who have impoverished it .... it is time govts like ours stop playing into the hands of agitators ....

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Well we can't handle 2% - no planning, no housing, no serious immigration policy etc....

The fact that Irish people live outside Ireland is a total irrelevance. Nevertheless perhaps you should ask yourself why they live outside Ireland and you'll find that many do so for the exact same reasons why we are struggling to accommodate immigrants from other countries.

Which shouldn't even be considered when it is claimed in bad faith by people who destroy their passport to prevent proper identification and deportation.

And we'd have a population of 280,000 if we had the same population density as Canada or a population of 2.5m if we had the same population density as that of the United States.

Some barrister involved in an immigration network on was Morning Ireland just now.

Not much information but he said (paraphrasing here) that because deportation is costly and complex, the state doesn’t bother to actually deport many people.

Not good enough.

With biometric facial recognition being used on arrival and departure in airports it shouldn't be too difficult to get someone's identity, though the images are only stored for 24 hours

They just won’t accept the majority of the public are pissed off with the situation.

They keep banging out the same nonsense thinking we’re all fools and will suddenly change our minds.

Like mini dictators they are.

They have forgotten that they are only there to run the country, not rule it.

And a lot of people pushing this madness have also subscribed to the ruler/ruled view of society. The people on the ground don't get to decide because they are not important enough.

Perhaps you were moving in more genteel circles where such subjects are neither broached nor mentioned in polite conversation, however that is your experience, but I'm afraid your assertion that immigration is never mentioned unless by brexiteers or the like is untrue, my experience is it certainly is talked about among people from time to time, I'm back and over to there on a regular basis, Bristol, Bolton, Sheffield and that is certainly what I find with my own ears

I heard that too - so much for Leo's 'rules based immigration'. His rules aren't worth a hill of beans as they aren't or can't be enforced. We don't have prisons for asylum seekers/ economic migrants, they can come & go and once they have a sense of the place, they are quite free to walk out and disappear into the community and black economy.

This is exactly how many of us feel - too many, too quickly and in real danger of swamping the health & education systems and culture of local towns.