VW ID.4

Great real world Irish information, tks

I did wonder that myself but max energy content traction battery (MECTB), from what I've read reports around 77kWh on new cars - thought I've read reports of the BMS stating 78-79kWh MECTB on or just after delivery.

MECTB is only an approximation from the BMS and changes due to environmental conditions and even the state of charge of the battery. To get the most accurate picture of battery health there's this dongle you can hire and it monitors the battery over something like a week or more to account for external effects. VW measure battery health I think at 21C after a deep discharge cycle iirc.

My advice on buying a used ID is to get an OBD2 dongle (I have veepeak) and use it to read MECTB, SOC display, current energy content and current value for kWh/100km since charge. With the latter three values you can work out the kWh available in the 0-100% range and the real world range of the last drive. To additionally note, the top buffer is inaccessible but the bottom buffer is accessible, but it is obviously inadvisable to run the battery so low that the car dies. Low voltages in lithium cells quickly kills batteries.

The other thing to look out for is weak cells and these can be identified with the dongle. All cells should be +-0.002V, though an older vehicle might see them +-0.010V. I believe the car will throw a battery error if a cell is out by more than 0.04V. Range will be taking a hammering in that case, with such an out of balance cell.

Knowing allthe above isn't going to get you 100% accurate information on the health of an ID battery, but you will get high confidence in avoiding any lemons out there.

Depends how you use it. Its like having a €100 for the weekly shop and you use it Spar or Aldi.

You can use energy sparingly or wastefully.

If you get 400kms in winter you're doing very well

Yes the friction of braking generates a bit of battery charge, not much but a little. You won't finish a stop start journey with more charge than you started it with or anything.

I was over test driving a ID4 Pro last week and asked for a breakdown on the ID4 & ID3 both with 77Kw batteries, the ID4 pro with reverse camera plus few extras was €44,064 this had the usual stop gap insurance & ceramic coating so you can take out 1k from that price, the price for ID3 Pro S was €53,957 again with that hidden optional extra of 1k. Going by the new updated price that quote was way off

Can you share some more info please? Looking at buying an ID5 GTX myself. Which dealer, spec, etc

I did a deal for a family member last week, 51k for id5 GTX MAX. It's the pre facelift apparently. There were much cheaper id4 models on showroom with 60k plus prices on the info sheets beside them, which is obviously wrong.

This one went from 80 to 58 last year then to 51 in last few weeks. How it was ever an 80k car is beyond me, my father has an 80k Audi Etron 55 with over 100bhp more power, bigger battery and an Audi badge and much better interior and a bigger car so I don't know where vw were getting their 80k from. I'll pm you the dealer

What warranty is on a new iD4 from VW?

Three years, first 2 years unlimited mileage and 3rd year is limited to 90Kklms.

I don't know if VW offer the option to purchase an extended warranty on an ID car when the original warranty is up. Someone else may have more information on whether his is available and if co what it costs.

From browsing the ID.4 cars on donedeal etc, they seem to come in different BHP:

• 148
• 174
• 204
• 299
• And maybe more I am not aware of !!

Is the BHP based on spec level or battery size or a a bit of both?

148 - 52kWh. It’s dog slow but was cheap.

the rest are 77kWh. 299 is GTX with AWD.

Dunno, I owned a 204hp ID.3 with 58kWh and it was brisk. I would imagine 400 extra kgs won’t make it a rocket. 204hp I test drove before was ok, but def slower than ID.3