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If your favourite cheese is mature cheddar, are you still a cheese lover?

  • 20-12-2023 3:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭


    Just a question I saw where Tyson Fury’s brother is being ridiculed for calling himself a cheese lover and then saying his favourite cheese was a mature cheddar. I don’t really get why he is being made fun of for this response. If he said grated cheddar I could see the joke but I don’t really get why mature cheddar is not a legitimate choice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Big fan of Lidl's vintage cheddar.

    I suspect that cheddar in USA might be quite different to how we know it here. Perhaps the people doing the ridiculing don't actually know what they are on about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    I love pretty much all cheeses, and I really like cheddar. No problems there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    No it was all English people making the derogatory comments towards Fury. Don’t get it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'd put it down to ignorance of high quality artisan cheddar.



  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭del_c


    cheese lover, love cheddar. nothing to see here.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,457 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    When I moved to the valley of cheese over three decades ago - The Emmental, cheddar was unheard of here. Now you can get a couple different brands and types in the supermarkets, including mature. So you decide.

    [Since BREXIT, you even find the odd Irish cheeses popping up as it is too difficult to import from the UK]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,270 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Would it matter if it wasn't an artisan cheddar? Say if it was from Super Valu....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    I suspect it is an English thing, a strange English thing



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,356 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    a class thing, maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭Did you smash it




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I can imagine a "cheese lover's" favourite cheese being a factory cheddar raising a few eyebrows, alright.



  • Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Scipri0


    The stronger and smellier the better when it comes to cheese and yes i love cheddar as well and always go for the strongest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,469 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    wenslydale or swaledale cheese nothing comes close.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,356 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i made the mistake of buying grated lidl cheddar (rathdaragh brand?) recently. total muck; tastes like bad easi singles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Sliced/grated cheese tastes of absolutely nothing at all. They've to add so many stabilisers etc. to stop it sticking/clumping/going hard that it ends up bearing virtually no resemblance whatsoever to actual cheese.



  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Macdarack


    El President camenbert or natin kid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Kinda like claiming to be a wine lover and your favourite wine is a bottle of Jacob's Creek Merlot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,270 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    So you cant love something unless you like the expensive stuff?

    Seems like a class issue alright, lack of class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I could live on cheese. Might have been a 🐭 in a previous life.

    Just bought a raw milk cheddar yesterday. 😋



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭nachouser




  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Duke of Schomberg


    Lover or "connoisseur"? I love cheeses, varieties of crisps, and beers - I like what I like (amongst others, Lancashire/Caerphilly, Tayto salt & vinegar/Seabrooks garlic, Smithwicks Red), but I couldn't dive toss about about many artisan cheeses, crisps, or "craft" beers. There's a lot of pseudoism built into the "artisan" food industry. If a chap likes "mousetrap" for what it is, fine . . . but to hell with Dubliner!



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Count Crotchula


    I'm guessing the joke is that 'Mature Cheddar Cheese' is a very common generic type of Cheese you can find almost everywhere. If he mentioned something more unique it would be more believable that he's a connoisseur / Cheese lover.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Tesco brand vintage white cheddar is top notch. Really strong, creamy and salty. It's my always in the fridge cheese, great value too.

    My favourite cheese is any good blue cheese that doesn't taste of brass. Cashel make a nice blue but Stilton is probably my favourite.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,356 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I watched a video about cheese making on YouTube recently, so it bombarded me with more, and I've probably watched about ten in the last month or two.

    Anyway, there's one about stitchelton - cheese made in the Stilton way which can't be called Stilton as that got its PDO designation when all producers were using pasteurised milk. There's one lad doing it with raw milk now, should be easy enough to find the YouTube video.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    Don’t care if it makes me seem unsophisticated and uncouth - this is one of the nicest cheeses I’ve ever had.


    Being young is a great advantage, since we see the world from a new perspective and we are not afraid to make radical changes - Greta Thunburg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Speaking of cheese. Put my Sheridan's order in 1st December to be delivered 20th Dec. It wasn't.

    I got a delivery from them today.

    Of the ten cheeses I ordered, I got three.

    I am not f*cking happy.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,356 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you must be really cheesed off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Count Crotchula


    Would that be the Aussie guy who calls his followers 'Curd Nerds'?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    I am. I now have to go down to Naas to pick it up. It's only ~20 minutes but still. Bad form from Sheridan's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    yeah I bought a food processor recently and since then I grate cheddar cheese in bulk from blocks. Theres a big taste difference doing it this way vs. buying supermarket grated cheese. The supermarket versions taste waxy in comparison and have less flavour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Genuine question - how much grated cheese do you go through that you wouldn't just grate it as you need it?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,356 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i regularly buy charleville grated cheese (to have on baked spuds, usually) and it's fine. you don't see that dusting of what i think is starch on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    The "wax" is most likely starch that you're tasting. Pre grated cheese tends to be coated in starch and other chemicals.

    A nice gorgonzola is probably my favourite but I'll devour a cheddar toasty just as easily.

    The only bit of "snobbery" I would have is with the pre grated stuff. It ruins any kind of cheese.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    I used to just slice a block as needed for sandwiches, etc. I had stopped buying supermarket grated cheese due to the waxy taste of it. Now with the processor it can grate a 400g block in about 30 seconds and I put that in a sealed bag and then have it on demand in the fridge. That grated cheese is far nicer than supermarket bought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I get that, but why not just leave the block whole and grate it fresh as you need it???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Convenience really. If I had a 400g block and grate 40g of cheese off it every time I want to make a sandwich then that means Ive to wash the box grater 10 times day after day which is a PITA. Lunch tends to be rushed for me so I dont want to be creating washing up every day over making a simple sandwich and box graters are a pain to clean as food and residue lodges on the blades both inside and outside. In the dishwasher they rust in no time as theyre made from cheap metal and the steam effects it badly. For me anyway box graters are probably one of the most awkward things to clean in the entire kitchen. Them and garlic presses are both awkward to get spotlessly clean as they both leave lots of food residue.

    So I just went back to slicing cheese instead. But now with the food processer it grates an entire block in no time at all and Ive always a stock of grated cheese in the fridge ready to go. The grater blade goes in the dishwasher for use again maybe 10 or 12 days later. So its far more convenient than washing a box grater 10 times in a row. Its not the reason I bought the processor, its for other stuff. But their ability to grate an entire block of cheese in seconds is an added bonus. And because of that now my box grater has been consigned to the bin.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,356 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    The charleville stuff seems fine pre grated. Convenience, really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    its nice but has taken a made price hike from the days it was always 2 for a block, the dunnes mature cheese in the white package tastes just as nice and assume also made in the same cork factory.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tree


    Better than a box grater is those grater lunch boxes, much less awkward angle on them. LAcks the satisfaction of the food processor absolutely lashing through the block though



  • Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    this is lovely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    To get back to the original question, there is absolutely nothing wrong with liking mature cheddar, even your favorite cheese. But to consider most of the Irish supermarket cheddars to be anything like a real mature cheddar is a bit of a stretch. My preferred cheddar is one of the MnS ones. And they don't have to be very strong cheeses. I'm looking for dryish, crumbly cheese, not too salty.

    My next port of call would be a specialist cheese shop but you can push the price up significantly going there.



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