U18 Vapes banned

You don't even need to ban it, just restrict it. Vaping for many smokers has been a great way to get away from smoking. Smoking is so much worse than vaping. And it should be available to them.

I'd stop all newsagents etc from selling those cheap disposable vapes for a start. Only allow any vaping stuff to be sold in vape shops. If a vape shop is caught once selling to someone underaged, close them down for a while. they'll learn their lesson.

Disclaimer: I vape. I smoked for years. Switching over helped a lot. I'll quit vaping at some point. I don't want to be addicted to something. But for now I'm ok with vaping.

Inhaling boiling Chinese chemicals, perfectly safe I'm sure.

Lol.

Its fcuking mental !!!

Its like at the start of the cigarette boom, when smoking was cool, and encouraged ..... No talk of the harmful effects .......

Now its yummy flavours instead of Doctors and babies ..........................

Crazy sh1t .................................

I'm not a smoker. never have been. Is it basically the same process as crack cocaine? Heating a substance until the until the crystals are small enough to be inhaled via vapours?

Can't see how that was seen as a healthy alternative to smoking.

The amount of misinformation on this thread is both laughable and unsurprising.

The main ingredients are nicotine, food grade flavorings, polyclycol or vegetable glycerin. The only other "chemical" is dihydrogen monoxide aka water. It's funny how you can make anything scary by referring to it containing chemicals.

You didnt copy and paste the bad bits though ......

"What are the harmful chemicals in Vapes?

Besides nicotine, e-cigarettes can contain harmful and potentially harmful ingredients, including:

• ultrafine particles that can be inhaled deep into the lungs.
• flavorants such as diacetyl, a chemical linked to serious lung disease.
• volatile organic compounds.
• heavy metals, such as nickel, tin, and lead.

Is vape bad for your teeth?

One of the main ingredients in vape juice is propylene glycol (PG), which is safe to eat and inhale but when used orally breaks down into acids that damage enamel, and propionaldehyde, which irritates soft tissue. PG also causes dry mouth, taking away essential saliva, leading to cavities and gum disease.

Have you a source for this?

By the way diacetyl has been banned in vape juice since 2016.

Here are some other facts for you: https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/20/clearing-up-some-myths-around-e-cigarettes/

To be honest I would have assumed it was banned for under 16's the same as for cigarettes. I also hope this stigma about vaping fruity flavours ceases now. It just so happens I like vaping cherry or blueberry flavour.

What advertising?

Fully agree disposable vapes should be a goner, it's the most prevalent form of litter you see these days. Oh for the days of diposable masks and dog sh*te. How they were ever allowed is beyond me.

About time the ban on sale to under 18's was put in place too but lads, if you were looking to the government to save your kids from this, you're barking up the wrong tree. Big tobacco wins again.

I'm not saying it is, of course it isn't, just is it taken in via the same physical process?

I can't believe they weren't banned for under 18s until now. That's insane. And yeah, they REALLY have to ban the disposables next. Honest to god, coming out with such a disposable product these days was just shocking.

I always thought the whole vape scene was/is shady AF: From the deliberate targeting of minors with their flavours. To the saturation of their popup stalls everywhere. To the fact that they did come out with such disposable devices in 2022/2023. To the overall lack of regulation. God knows WHAT'S in them. They need to go. And now! They should be treated exactly the same as cigarettes.

here's the thing though, the flavours have been around for years. But that's long before disposables were around. And back then it'd cost a minimum of 40 euros to get set up. It was a hobbyist thing more than anything else. Then they started making it cheap and accessible.

A responsible shop won't but there was an expolision of vape shops on the back of disposables. Addictive product that lasts barely a day, that you can double your money on. Literally overnight our sales were 40% disposables, I never saw any product take off like that. We don't sell much of them now as adult vapers realised they are a waste of money and we don't sell to kids.

The TPD (Tobacco products directive) was brought in by the EU in 2016, one part was the ban of sales to under 18's, for some absolutely bizarre reason the Irish government did not transpose over that part.

Of course it will make a difference, there is so many shops selling to any age openly, a couple of visits from mystery shoppers and the shops are shut down.

A proper vape shop takes years to establish, building a repeat customer base, knowing your product. Most of these new shops I see don't sell any kits, have any knowledge, just sells disposables.

That is why we have been looking for the bare minimum in regulation. To keep away unscrupulous cash grab retailers.

After the initial introduction to the market adult vapers really don't use disposables, they are as expensive as cigarettes if you smoke 20 a day.

If you don't smoke you shouldn't vape. They are highly addictive the latest generation of nicotine salt products found in disposables.

Recommend anyone watches Big Vape on netflix about the rise and fall of Juul.

a quick google tells you what you need to know..... ✌️

They won't be forming an orderly queue outside, they'll be around the corner or nearby. The parents would see them if they just queued outside the shop.

It should be very simple for them to act on it, as there is little dissent.

Get it effing done.