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Overrated and disappointing films

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,183 ✭✭✭screamer


    A star is born..... more like my brain cells died. a vanity project for lady ga ga and bradley cooper with a miserable ending. null points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    I agree with you about Elf, and Anchorman and Anchorman 2 are both shite. Lazy writing and lazy performances. "Oh look how zany we are and look at all these celebrities in on the joke." Pathetic. Ferrell's is hit or miss for me, and it's mostly miss these days because he has been phoning in performances for years and relying on his overdone schtick. Having said that I really love Semi-Pro, and The Other Guys, The Campaign and Talledega Nights were good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,449 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Grave of the Fireflies was produced by Studio Ghibli, it's just not a Miyazaki film.

    It's still a 'proper Ghibli' film. One of their best for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,449 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Dear lord, I have no words.

    Always thought that was a Ghibli film even the lowest common denominator could appreciate, apparently I was wrong :eek:



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,932 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Watched 40 odd minutes of Blade Runner 2049 before switching off, it's just Ryan Gosling wandering around the place with a sour head on him, mind numbing rubbish, not that I only enjoy films with car chases and explosions every 5 minutes, can't stand drawn out indulgent crap like that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Am I allowed to say I liked both Daddys Home films?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Definitely with you regarding the phenomenon of Elf over the last number of years. Watched it the other day again (it just happened to be on at the time) and I was shocked at how little substance there is to it. Mostly cheap laughs with little or no context and a flimsy storyline just about holding it all together.

    When you strip it all back, Ferrell's over-the-top acting ain't all it's cracked up to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Iguarantee


    Inception.


    Absolute bollocks!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    I was a huge fan of Back to the Future when it came out and still have a real soft spot for it, despite its many well documented plot holes.

    For whatever reason, I didn't see any of the sequels when they first came out and it was only about five years ago that I got around to catching up with the rest of the franchise.

    BTTF 2 really left me cold, and was nowhere near as engaging or charming as the first movie. Did they wait too long before making the follow-up I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya sorry that's what I meant. Getting confused myself there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,974 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Can’t agree. Great story, cinematography, excitement and was very dark. Super film.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,974 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Maybe I need to watch Gladiator again, but I found it terribly dull



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I remember Anchorman 2 being overhyped by Tubridy with Tubridy all over Ferrel that interview he did with him ... I have never seen Ferrel in a truly good film ... he's overhyped out of proportion by guys like Tubridy is all ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Another Ryan Tubridy overhype film ... I don't know what some see in this film .... it is absolute rubbish imv ... that song Shallow is terrible and once more overhyped by Tubridy with a few of his pals singing it on his show ... The Greatest Showman is another one .... totally overhyped again by Tubridy ... and should I mention that smutfest called Fifty Shades of Grey .... Tubridy truly has diabolical taste in films ....

    PS: I don't think any film mentioned here go under overrated or disappointing films ... they go under total rubbish films ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,974 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The second film was 3-4 years after the first, and part 3 was a year after part 2. First one is a truly stunning film. Had everything. I liked both sequels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Anchorman 2 especially is woeful ... hard to believe it is 10 years old ... 10 years since it was overhyped by Ryan Tubridy ... I remember they planned to do a serious sequel but it was shelved ... about Iraq iirc .... cannot see Ferrell do something straight ...



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,922 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Maybe it would be a better idea to simply stop listening to Ryan Tubridy's film opinions (which is extremely easy to do given he doesn't even work in RTE anymore) if they grate that much.



  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭sameoldname


    It's been a good while since I watched it but if I recall correctly he plays his character in Stranger Than Fiction pretty much totally straight. Fantastic film too IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    It’s not like every other radio and TV presenter who has a Hollywood star on their show does a forensic deep dive into their latest movie and the quality of the acting. Its promotion work.

    Cribbing about Tubridy seems to have become the second most popular post type on this site after middle-aged men complaining about “wokeness”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    For a film that was made in 1968 it still looks futuristic too. Of course the real year 2001 was nothing like Arthur C. Clarke or Stanley Kubrick envisioned it, but if we take away the title the movie still relatively adds up to a convincing futuristic vision of 2000 whatever.

    As a kid when I first saw it, I was baffled. Kid me was expecting a Star Wars type adventure. Instead I got a philosophical musing on the dangers of over reliance on intelligent technology and an alien creation of mankind theory. My tiny little brian just wasn't ready for that. In later years it became a favourite though, even if I do think that it could do with some cutting here and there.

    I can certainly understand why some people wouldn't like it though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I can't say that I'm a huge fan of Studio Ghibli or anime in general. The Mrs. really likes it though. But yeah, 'Spirited Away' is fantastic.

    I was probably at the same IFC showing as Coogy, but had a very different reaction.

    LOL



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Lovers of '2001..' tend to have contempt for '2010..', with some critics calling it "Ten past eight"!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Deadpool is very good, but Deadpool 2 is awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Can't agree. Thought it was formulaic and predictable, with Pacino as usual chewing up all round him. It's sequel (of sorts) Carlito's Way wasn't entirely flawless, but it was far superior to Scarface.

    Had the misfortune to catch Raging Bull on the Beeb last night. Absolute mind-numb fest, with De Niro gone round the bend on method - in other words, repeating his lines many times in a row. Lots of drawn-out, tiresome domestic (abuse) scenes interspersed with short, sharp clips of his fights. Raging Dull would be a far more apt title.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Saw Spirited Away when it came out here 20 years ago and instantly fell in love with it. The visuals, the setting, the music, I’m still in awe of it all. Will definitely be watched over Christmas!

    Got me in to Ghibli films too. Don’t think they’ve hit that high since then but some of the older films are great. Love Porto Rosso too!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,183 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    No.

    And you should take a good hard look at your life choices.....


    🙂



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    Whisper it now.....

    is Robert De Niro overrated as an actor?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭santana75


    I dont think so. I mean Raging Bull and the Deer hunter alone are testaments to his talents as an actor. Some of his output in recent years has been very dodgy to say the least though so I can see how it could be said that he's over rated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    You're correct. It was so tedious, and it ended Russell Crowe's career in a way, because since he won the Oscar for it all he's done is sleepwalk his way through roles, occasionally affecting an English accent when he has to play an "important" character. He also let himself go physically. Ridley Scott is a very hit and miss director too, but mostly misses. Visually great, but lots of style over substance, and movies and characters that leave me cold. Alien is a classic but he had a great idea/script by Dan O'Bannon to work with. Plus I much prefer Aliens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    I like Scarface but it is really a horrible movie with horrible characters who have no redeeming features. It was brave of De Palma to make it like that, rather than glamorise crime and criminals like most gangster movies do. This was the American dream as the American nightmare. Because it's Pacino in it, he makes it a better film, but there is nothing to his character, no charm, no honour, he's just a rat who has learned how to survive. It's a very funny movie in the right light :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    Permission granted. Although they should have been better given that Ferrell and Wahlberg had such good chemistry in The Other Guys. They just struck me as lazy movies with zero script or jokes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭MfMan


    There's no need to whisper it, of course he is. Had a few good (rather iconic) roles back there in the 70s, in particular I thought Taxi Driver and The Deerhunter. He won a supporting Oscar for Godfather II, but I've often felt that his segment in it, important or not, frequently kills the flow and momentum of an all-time classic. As I've pointed out, Raging Bore was his nadir. Has been coasting along ever since on his name alone.

    I don't hold much truck with American method stars - De Niro, Pacino, Brando, Hoffman etc. Give me classically-trained British RADA actors instead Far, far better screen performers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I thought the The Banshees of Inisherin was fairly bland. Great acting by Brendan Gleeson but otherwise a boring story and I feel they could have done more with the sets and locations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The chronological version of the Godfather trilogy makes his part look way more interesting and is a better cut of the film's overall.

    Post edited by breezy1985 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    When he appeared in We're no Angels with Sean Penn (1989), the jig was up. Terrible movie with an embarrassingly poor performance from De Niro. I saw that when it came out and even as a 16 year old, I thought "christ, I could do better than that".

    He also possesses zero charisma. When you compare him to the likes of Daniel Day Lewis, there's no contest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's no secret that DeNiro's career took a bit of a nosedive after the 90's. But I think that's probably down to bad movie choices rather than being an "over rated" actor. He's excellent in certain roles, namely the brooding type with a bubbling intensity that threatens to boil over at any moment. But I've always felt that he can be out of his depth in other roles. However, he's definitely not alone there as the vast majority of Hollywood actors share that particular limitation. It's very rare that you can get any actor that can shift gears to any great extent.

    However, for a time he was a joy to watch. But his turn in 'Killers of the Flower Moon' is probably the best thing he's done in a long, long, time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,298 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Love Actually.

    My wife loves this film and I remember it being a big deal when I was a kid but Jesus it's terrible. I remember seeing Andrew Lincoln in Teachers and being impressed but here he is wholly overdoing it. And he's just one of a host of decent actors (Rickman, Grant, Firth, Nighy, Thompson) just mailing it in. Then there's the whole aspect of making a stereotypically "British" film for American audiences that rings incredibly hollow.

    I had a similar experience with Four Weddings and a Funeral so it may just be a problem I have with Richard Curtis (though I love Blackadder and Mr. Bean). I think the idea of romance from his generation is foreign to me and I just don't 'get' it.

    The whole film is too cliche and cutesy, even when I know its a film that I have to switch my brain off for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Blade Runner 2049 is good ... but I don't understand why it has to be so long ... the original Blade Runner was nearly an hour shorter ... the original was the best too ... in my top 10 films of all time ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,765 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Curtis hit a formula with 4 weddings of just getting mostly posh British "names" to act eccentric and play up to stereotypes and has pretty copied that since.

    Like most popular genres there are a significant group who won't get them at all. The Hugh Grant posh/flustered act annoys me and Nighy just plays his Still Crazy character in everything he has done since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,331 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I could never understand how much acclaim this got as its a remake and the original did all the heavy lifting



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Absolutely. '2049' was a rather confusingly-plotted middling tribute act to a classic original.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Meh I think this is a little harsh - thought he was good in a Beautiful mind, Master & Commander, Cinderella Man, 3:10 to Yuma, American Gangster…admittedly these are all over 10 years old but they are all after Gladiator also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Elvis... the Baz Luhrmann film.

    The hype was hysteric and the praise for Austin Butler as Elvis was stratospheric.

    I thought that the Lhurmann cinematic quirke effects distracted from the story and were not suited for the times being portrayed and I wasn't impressed with Butler's performance either. I have seen Elvis tribute act Ben Portsmouth play at The Olympia several times and he would blow Butler out of the water every day of the week, in terms of Elvis visual and audio performance.

    Anyone who said how good Butler was at playing Elvis, has not seen Ben Portsmouth.




  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭niallpatrick


    Avatar was just dances with wolves in space but I did admire the CGI, I didn't see it in 3D just 2D. Honestly CGI for me kills a good story if it's used just for the sake of it and it can backfire. John Carpenters 'the thing' was remade with updated practical visual effects meaning everything on screen wasn't CGI. A load of work and artistry went into it. The producers 'nah scrub the visuals make it CGI' and the film tanked straight to VOD or whatever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I haven't seen this in year but I like it ... it is also one of the films that inspired the conspiracy theories that the moon landings were fake and filmed by Kubrick ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    De Niro is a great actor. No other of his own or later generations that I've seen has the same ability to act in such a convincing manner just with his eyes alone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭coogy


    I think that may be part of the reason why I don't rate him. Nowhere near enough range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Ok. So you don't rate Robert De Niro as an actor, and claim he hasn't" enough range". This is the star of Mean Streets, Heat, The Godfather, Casino, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The Deer Hunter, The Untouchables, Goodfellas, A Bronx Tale, Cape Fear etc. etc. Has won the Oscar for best actor and best supporting actor.

    But you're a big fan of Back to The Future !!!😲



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭Tippman24


    The War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise. After about twenty minutes I started to hope that the Martians would kill him so that I could go out of the Cinema.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,327 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Whats implausible about Jaws? Sharks attack people all the time, they will hang around if they are getting easily fed.

    Now the sequels were implausible but the original is untouchable. Watching that as a kid was absolutely terrifying.

    Super cast and just engaging from start to finish.



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