"average Dublin house prices should fall to ‘the €300,000 mark" according to Many Lou McD.

So which party do you think would have or will make those changes?

1) They can probably live in BallyBrack, I dont know why you think they should be able to live in one of the most affluent areas in the capital city?

2) I think I mentioned it already, but I'll say it again, there are more people living here now than when your parents and grandparents lived here but we are still using the same old 3 dimensional space to build in.

3) Say you dont start out looking for the state to provide you with a house in the area you grew up in. Say you take personal responsibility and make your own way in life, or, failing that, you accept that if you want to rely on the state for housing, that you have to take what you get, where you get it.

Why would anybody buy their own house if the state is giving them away anywhere you want to live?

Btw your little analogy is a great example of why its pie in the sky stuff. When you are busy applying for that 2 bed downsizing, you are blocking the next young couple from getting that same 2 bed.

Please don't go down the rabbit hole of nonsense with "status quo" and "fat cat bankers" and "money looks after money".

Well the average 3 bed semi in Ireland is over 100m2, so you havent actually built a house yet. You also have no plumbing or electricity, plaster, paint, carpet, heating, etc, etc. Giving example costs and then comparing them to the cost of a fully finished, 50% larger house is kinda pointless, no?

How many days did it take you? What would that have cost using your current salary rate? How much liability insurance did you setup while doing the job?

It will always be cheaper to do something yourself compared to paying a professional, but its not an apples to apples comparison, unless your solution is for everyone to build their own houses?

Not true with the 3x.

Semi-d will have shared walls, so even if 30sqm larger quite similar in terms of blocks, slates, insulation etc.

And yes of course there'll be more materials overall, but we're forever hearing certain industry figures telling us how much this or that material went up, as justification for proportionally far, far greater end price increases.

I've not talked anywhere about the price of doing things myself... I've given actual tradesmen's rates, against builders quotes to show how much profiteering is going on.

Ireland's house affordability (price v income index) is pretty close to the average of OECD countries. Better than NZ, Canada and Australia in this regard. Don't be expecting miracles if you are moving there to escape the 'housing crisis' here

House price relative to median income by country (OECD)

Portugal              147.99

Canada                140.23

United States    132.54

Czechia                131.08

Luxembourg     130.40

Netherlands      129.83

Austria                129.73

New Zealand     121.96

Australia             121.73

Switzerland       119.42

Spain                   119.39

OECD - Total      118.06

Estonia                116.60

Germany            116.11

Hungary              115.79

Greece                115.06

Norway                115.03

Japan                  114.58

Slovenia              114.23

Ireland                113.92

UK                        113.72

Chile                    113.54

Euro area            111.12

Euro area (17 countries)              110.37

Latvia                  107.78

France                102.74

Denmark            102.72

Lithuania             101.24

Belgium               100.67

Sweden                100.58

Croatia                99.69

Poland                94.98

South Africa       93.67

Italy                     89.32

Finland                86.25

And did an engineer oversee it to ensure it meets building regulations?

Your example isn't relevant to building a house @MegamanBoo .

You don't have wall or ceiling insulation, slabbing, plastering, external render/brick, no fitted kitchen, utility room, sanitary ware in the now standard downstairs loo, ensuite and bathroom, tiling, plumbing, electrics, triple glazed windows and patio door, composite front door, central heating system, oven, hob, flooring, wired for an alarm. Even smaller things like smoke and carbon monoxide alarms. None of it is certified. These are all standard in a new build home.

If you want electricity you'll need an electrician and a certificate of compliance, gas heating you'll need a registered plumber etc. That's an additional cost.

Did you at least obtain planning permission?

Yeah, thats exactly what I said. Come back to us when you have public liability insurance, run payroll, health and safety, pensions, paye, etc, etc.

No, my contribution (along with many others) has been to point out that its always been like this and always will be, for the umpteenth time, due to supply and demand for a limited resource. So to get around this, you need to improve your lot over what your parents had. If they were minimum wage workers and you are also a minimum wage worker, then you are not going to be able to compete with the many non minimum wage workers who also want to live where you want to live.

No security when renting?

Irish tenants are the best protected in the world.

Non paying tenants can expect to enjoy 2 years free rent before a District Court will issue an eviction order.

Stop spreading fake news and cop on.

Thought she'd be more a Cosmpoliton lady. The only generation who had low house prices relative to their wage was the 1970s/80s. Sadly this then was at the price of a major part of that generation emigrating.

A limited resource. Youre right. This resource is purposely limited... funny covid etc hits and the dramatic action and money no object ... the housing excuse ?

For anyone interested in why government love rip off property, take a look at the brilliant Australian documentary below... realestate4ransom