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Random Fitness Questions

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?



    [mod note]Please see a physio. This could be a medical issue

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I don't think working on getting to bodyweight bench, 1.5 bodyweight squat or twice bodyweight deadlift should necessarily interfere progressing in another sport, like park running or adventure running. If you're already close to those numbers, it will be easier, of course.

    If you really had to choose, or prioritise them, personally I would say go with the lifting, unless you hate it.

    There's just too much evidence these days as to the broad benefits of resistance training for health, it's hard to look past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,657 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Could definitely reach those numbers in lifting and some decent 10k times by training both only twice a week.

    Lifting is not my main focus, have only lifted twice a week for years. BW Bench would be light warm for or a very high rep set.

    I'd even say 1.5x Bench, 2x squat and 2.5x deadlift is achievable lifting twice a week. Will just take a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    Appreciate your perspectives, thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I just think about what excites me the most really.

    I like to think "where would I love my fitness to be at in a year's time?", and then work back from there to decide how I'm going to train.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,814 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    thanks but I dont think so, not had any injury, and no other exercise, dips , pullups, normal/close pressups , oh press causes this. Lowering the height has worked so far so ill increment that over time and it might just work out the niggle , if not its just one of those things

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Fasted walking question...

    So, I usually cycle quite a bit. But during the winter months my activity on the bike drops dramatically because I absolutely hate cycling in the winter. So, to offset the drop I tend to walk. I'll do 5 miles in about 1 hour 10 minutes and recently started to do it in the morning before I've eaten anything.

    The thing is, sometimes I'm not able to do this first thing after I wake up, which I understand the to optimal time to do a fasted walk. For instance, I couldn't get away this morning until a couple of hours after I woke up. I still didn't eat anything before the walk.

    So the question is, is my fasted walk 2+ hours after I awake the same as my fasted walk 20 minutes after I awake?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,657 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The same in the same in what way?

    If the distance/pace is the same it’s kinda of irrelevant when you woke up



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    its the same if you do the same distance and speed.


    Why don’t you break into a jog if you’re looking to replace the cycling?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    Interested in the walking discussion above. I’m 50 yrs old have a long history now of injuries Achilles tendon and knee mainly so have had to stop running. Have taken up walking would be doing 10k in about 1 hr 20 mins or thereabouts just wondering is walking any good for fitness and weight loss and control as an aid to a balanced diet. Thanks



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    If you walk at pace, particularly on an incline, it can be a low impact way to burn calories that doesn't present a risk of injury, or affect other activities.

    It's popular with bodybuilders and figure athletes, for example. Which is funny, when it's also associated with older people...

    I used to walk for about 45 mins on a treadmill, on an incline, twice a week, om rest days, and I could burn 500 calories at an absolute minimum.

    For reference, if I did an hour of really hard conditioning, it might burn 900, and that would take a lot of me for the next day.

    So yes, walking has a utility for weight loss / calorie control and general health, for anyone. Incline is good, and a decent pace, however. You really do need to get to the point of sweating, and stay there for the duration.

    Is that the same as "getting fit"? No, not if it's all you do. It will not develop signficiant cardio vascular endurance alone, unless you are coming in from a very low base. Best to mix it with resistance training and the odd more intense cardio workout.

    Paired with dietary changes it can, and regularly is, enough for weight loss though.

    I think the fasted early morning thing is myth though. I'd lean towards believing the calories expended is all that matters. Early morning is just convenient for busy people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I am by no means an expert on any of this so take it with a pinch of salt. But from what I've read, aiming for a fast walk is a good way to maintain a certain fitness level. Trying to hit 7kmh, or thereabouts, seems to be the optimal point and may be better for you than jogging? And doing it before you eat anything is better for burning off fat reserves, according to some. But as said above, that could be a bit of a myth.

    Again, I'll stress that I'm no expert in these matters and, frankly, there's a lot of conflicting information out there on all types of exercise and how effective they are.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    It kills me too, so I cycle in the winter as well😂.


    But if I wasn’t cycling I’d jog. Start with a couch to 5K. You’d be surprised how quickly you’ll improve

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    “Getting fit” is all about progressive overload. If you go out and walk 7km in an hour every day, you’ll be fit to walk 7km in an hour. You’ll get to a point where it doesn’t even raise your heart rate much. Unless you’re coming from a really low base, it doesn’t seem like a good idea


    Jogging and then running is definitely a better option for the long term.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I tried it for a while but the impact on my legs was so bad I had to stop. I'm just not a jogger I spose. 😥

    In any case, the 5 mile winter walks do me fine and I get out on the bike when the conditions aren't too bad. I'll be on the bike today cos it's dry, but I reckon the wind will be a killer.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Did you go out and just jog for as long as you could? That’s the mistake a lot of people make.

    Look up the couch to 5k program, it could be the answer for you

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I worked up to a 5km run and every step of the way was awful TBH. And it's not as if I'm unfit or radically overweight. I'll regularly cycle 40 or 50km a day if conditions allow. But jogging just banjaxed me. It was murder on my legs that I had to just give up after a number of months. It's funny, I never got that way even when I played football!

    I might give it a go again and see what happens. But I can't say that I'm in any real hurry to try it.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Look man, I hear you. I used to run 75-80km a week for a while. Never enjoyed it, but it was good for me.


    I’ve been cycling so much the last few years I don’t run anymore, but I keep thinking I’ll do it again. You have to cycle 40km, to expend as much energy as a 10km run, on average. So it’s much better for burning calories.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    That might be the case. But a cycle is way more enjoyable. 😀

    ...except when I get rained on. 😡



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Cycling is definitely more enjoyable.


    In Ireland you’re as likely to be rained on in the summer as the winter though. Get yourself some good wet weather gear: Castelli Perfetto or Gabba jerseys, decent gloves and shoe covers.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    In Ireland you’re as likely to be rained on in the summer as the winter though

    Well, that was certainly the case this, that's for sure. What a miserable year weather wise that was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Yeah the idea that fasted cardio burns more fat is just a myth. Fat loss comes down to the daily amount of calories burned vs cals consumed. If your average days trends toward a deficit, you lose weight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Debating getting an outdoor pull up bar/gymnastics bar

    Anyone recommend a company?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep



    Or, a heavier and better made version you could also Squat in:-

    It used to be possible to get a metal fabrication company to make these a little cheaper, I did that a few years ago for my back yard and for a work gym, but not sure if this is practical these days, with inflation. If you do that, and it'll be outdoor, consider getting it galvanised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Cheers I assume the ones linked wouldn't work outdoor?

    We have a squat rack in the shed, so looking more the pull up component, but will never say no to outdoor summer squating



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    The powder coating on the Blk Box one should be pretty water resistant and it's steel underneath. You could probably could leave it out uncovered and it would be fine. I assume you'd get some discolouration and whatnot over time. It would be worth asking them.

    If you are going this route I'd definitely ask for quotes from a few gym fabrication companies, especially as you won't need the uprights drilled for holes, or need j hooks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭j@utis


    Have you looked into rucking (walking/hiking with weighted backpack or vest)? Running places about 8x of body weight stress on our knees, whereas walking about 3x, so even with extra weight it's still much less of an impact.



  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭Inforapenny


    Doing a lot more cardio lately so sweating more as a result.

    Someone mentioned getting electrolytes to take either before or after to help replenish any salts, minerals etc. lost.

    Any thoughts on them.

    Thank you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Tipperary animal lover


    Drink after work out, put 1 sachet in a large bottle( 1 1/2 litres i put it in to) of water and sip all day, don't use a small bottle you'll only pass the electrolytes out first time you go to the toilet, sipping all day ensures your getting them into your body.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    It’s unlikely you need to supplement with electrolytes, unless you have a really poor diet.


    Drinking water and eat fruits and vegetables and you’ll be fine.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,668 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I add a pinch of salt to my gym water bottle and salt my last meal before the gym. Don't know if it makes much of a difference but I do it anyway.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    You should salt your food for flavour every meal.


    People who eat too much salt usually eat too much processed food. Salt is fine if you’re cooking everything yourself.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    Floury spuds with salt and salty butter



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    What are you looking to do in the gym? If it is running then if your knees hurt just walking that's probably a bad idea. If it is strength training or other cardio, as long as it is something that isn't hard on the knees and you start off easy enough then I don't see any problems with it and it should help you lose weight.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    You lose weight with your diet.


    For your knees- go to a phsyio and get some recommended exercises.


    But you can always diet and do upper body work.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭redzerredzer


    What’s wrong with this 2 day upper / lower split?

    Thanks


    Barbell Bench 3x8

    lat pull down 3x10

    seated shoulder press machine 3x10

    Seated cable row 3 x10

    DB Curl 3 x 10

    ——————————————

    DB Lunge 4 x 8 each leg

    Leg Press 3 x 10

    DB Step Up 3 x 8 each leg

    DB Romanian Deadlift 4 x8

    DB Bulgarian Split Squat 3 x8 each leg



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭redzerredzer


    Great to hear.

    The leg day is more than enough for me. Would you add anything to upper day? Was thinking maybe rope pull down after curls?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Yes, you could add another isolation movement in there after the curls without any issue, although probably something like a tricep pushdown would be a more traditional accompaniment to a curl.

    Really though, you could do an isolation movement for shoulders, lats or whatever else if that's what you wanted.

    Some people design their upper days so the body parts are hit with a compound and an isolation, but for time purposes, choices usually have to be made..

    The only other thing I'd say is, assuming you've been doing your A and B workout 3-4 times a week, it might be an idea to write yourself another upper and lower set of workouts, and rotate them in. To keep yourself sane and also stop hitting a wall as quickly, in terms of progressive overload.

    For example, putting options below in brackets-

    Barbell Bench 3x8

    (DB bench, or a machine press)

    lat pull down 3x10

    (Pull ups, assisted if necessary, or a pulldown with different grip variation)

    seated shoulder press machine 3x10

    (Seated barbell or DB press)

    Seated cable row 3 x10

    (Chest supported DB rows, BB row, inverted row)

    DB Curl 3 x 10

    (Hammer curls, cable curls, whatever)

    ——————————————

    DB Lunge 4 x 8 each leg

    (Barbell reverse lunges, split squats)

    Leg Press 3 x 10

    (Any compound squat or quad dominant trap bar dead)

    DB Step Up 3 x 8 each leg

    (Feel like a second single leg movement here is a bit redundant tbh)

    DB Romanian Deadlift 4 x8

    (Barbell RDL, back extensions)

    DB Bulgarian Split Squat 3 x8 each leg

    (Again its a lot of single leg volume, and similar enough movements.. Maybe calves here for a change?)

    On the lower day I probably do wonder the way there are three unilateral movements in there, but overall still fairly sane looking.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Jennyy


    Every time I want to exercise for health, I have ideas and it is difficult to take action. And you can't control yourself without a partner.😫



  • Registered Users Posts: 15 cruzka


    Fitness is a cool thing to be honest



  • Registered Users Posts: 15 cruzka


    Fitness is a cool thing to be honest. I recently started working out thanks to the advice from https://betterme.world/articles/how-many-pounds-to-lose-an-inch/ . This is really very cool already helps me. I've already lost some weight and I still feel pretty good



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Bawnmore


    Stupid question - if hypertrophy is the goal, should adding more weight always be how to progress? Or is it better to focus on more reps at lower weight? I'm probably overthinking it, but no harm checking.

    I'm only really beginning (about 5 months in) but I've been making progress I'm happy with by following something along the lines of this for most exercises:

    • Lift something at 3x6.
    • If/when I can comfortably do that, then up to 3x8.
    • If/when I can comfortably do that, then up to 3x10.
    • If/when I can comfortably do that, then up the weight and start again.

    I've made good beginner progress in everything and I'm still fairly consistently moving up weight across the board - I'm at a point now 3x10s in whatever exercise are reassuringly difficult before upping weight and lowering reps - do I just continue as is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭Rossi7


    ....

    Post edited by Rossi7 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    This is a fine approach. Doing more of weight and/or reps over time is all that matters.

    Once you're getting stronger, the main driver of hypertrophy will be eating enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Bawnmore


    OK good to know - thanks 👍️

    This is the 1st time I've been focusing on eating more - have been eating at a surplus for the last 3 weeks and slowly gaining. I've always found it easy to eat at a deficit when losing weight and eating healthily at a surplus is actually harder than I thought it'd be.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    You can progress multiple ways, the way I always got the best results with was keeping the reps between 6-8 and once I could do 3 sets of 8, increase the weight.


    But it’s perfectly ok to increase the reps until 15. Once you’re over 15, you’re not getting much hypertrophy

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,649 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Eating a healthy surplus is tough. Nuts are your friend here.


    A good method is to do it in cycles as well. Pick a body fat range you’re ok to stay in. Say 17-20%. Eat whatever you want until you get to 20% then eat clean until you’re back to 17%. Repeat.


    it mimics the old bulk/cut cycles most bodybuilders did. But it’s a little healthier than eating KFC for gains.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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