Dublin - Metrolink (Swords to Charlemont only)

Its Christmas lads, positive vibes 🎄

Baby all i want for Christmas ISSSSSSSSS... Metrolink...

Thank you.

Well, using the examples you mention, shouldn't Dublin explore the option of an underground connection between metrolink and the Red LUAS?

Shops, beauty salons, etc?

It shouldn't be very difficult to do. Close the LUAS for a couple of weekends.

Your examples from Paris and London show how it could be a fine connection.

At present, the plan is poor.

I am sorry.

Most of my adult life has been spent in cities with excellent public transport.

I just wanted to ask why there might be a better connection between the metrolink and the Red LUAS.

With proper policing, and cameras, Dublin could surely do something better for that connection.

Having flashbacks to a discussion on here decades ago. All we need now is someone to mention a travelator….

Metro will happen in some shape or form, and we should all hold our elected representatives to account for it.

Is there actually 4 sets of pedestrian lights? Seems to me you get off the Red Line at Abbey and walk along the Clery's side of OCS to the entrance. There is very little traffic turning eastward along that stretch. There are no ped lights at Sackville Place, Talbot Street or Cathedral Street, just at Cathal Brugha Street. Alternatively you can cross OCS to access it via the Moore Lane entrance, which is definitely also one set of pedestrian lights.

So if we accept that the time/distance is awkward but not unusual, and that the traffic lights aren't that much of an issue..... has that eased your concerns?

Regarding the tunnel, I think my original reply was gone. It should be a relatively trivial issue to fix once Metrolink is opened. Would be ideal also factoring in that there likely might be folk who wish to transfer to Connolly for the Northern line, as that is the only intercity service that isn't connected to Metrolink (Tara St. to Wexford, Glasnevin to everything else)

Re the 30bn hole, in that independent article Ryan says:

Broadly I think this a fairly understandable point? Like inflation has affected all sectors, and given the total multitude of projects included in that 100bn figure, including all road projects and aspects of, if not all projects in AIRR, if we were to get all of that for not only 100bn, but within 30 years, given our planning system, I would be extremely happy with all of that.

He is absolutely right that we need to keep the wheels spinning on all of this or it becomes a hell of a lot more expensive, and that pricing for the totality of all projects, given what that includes, seems like a good deal? and likely can get cheaper as we get better at building rail.

Ffg talk about sf and their magic money trees. Lol. Wait for this, they will stall it, saying a crash is around the corner, self fulfilling prophecy, then claim it can be built for fifty percent the cost if we wait a few years, in their mind... this **** is actually plausible here...

The tens of billions squandered here, is worthy of a public inquiry...

Is this b'there are 18 tram lines in Copenhagen'k?

There is a set of lights at Upper/Middle Abbey Street, a set of lights at Henry St/North Earl St., a set of lights at Cathedral Street, and a set of lights around the proposed metrolink entrance.

Four sets of lights.

His comment about €30bn was poorly made. Thought it might have had broader context but it didn't.

A large chunk of that €30bn comes back into the economy through employment, manufacturing and associated tax receipts not including VAT which is completely circular. Inflation means tax take is also up.

So €30bn as a figure is far less to the exchequer in reality, and he should be making this point for people who are interested to listen.

it would be difficult to build. People keep talking about tunnels without looking at geology. Cities with extensive tunnelled infrastructure tend to be built on stable bedrock that's easy to tunnel through. Dublin is not. Even deep basements or cut and cover is made more expensive by Dublin city's difficult ground type (the bedrock is limestone, but it's deep below layers of boulder clay, shale and mudstone).

Given the length of red line, there's probably a case to be made for reducing the number of stops, in particular removing any stops incapable of being extended (in the same fashion Green line platform lengths were extended) so that capacity can be increased and journey times improved.

Specifically as a transport interchange, no. But a large underground commercial precinct would actually be a great addition to Dublin given our long, dismal winters.