The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Brendan Bendar · 06-02-2021 6:48am

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it time for sinn fein to withdraw support from the psni or push for chief constables resignation over the disgracful scenes at the ourmau road today

Uvf can assemble and hold show of strengths,relatives and victims of a massacre (collusion caused),cant even hold a commeration or lay flowers at the site

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqMFXJMW8AAlO2E?format=jpg&name=large

What’s this all about?

Not happening here surely.

Brendan Bendar · 06-02-2021 9:03am

Deleted User wrote: »

I doubt its happening here,the site is effectively dying and mainly used by a middle aged,middle class posters,

(or anywhere,fake profiles on social media are rooted out quickly nowadays

Do you think the chief constable of psni should go over yesterdays carryon,??

Glad to hear that, that’s what I thought myself, was very surprised as really nobody would have the time to be on sites all day every dawn to dusk.

Not aware of any issues with the PSNI, I tend not to have too much interest in that area, so unfortunately I can’t give an opinion.

If I come across any info I certainly will comment.

Lot of negativity about the place Bee, getting a bit on my wick.

Hope you understand.

Bishop of hope · 06-02-2021 9:10am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I doubt its happening here,the site is effectively dying and mainly used by a middle aged,middle class posters,

(or anywhere,fake profiles on social media are rooted out quickly nowadays

Do you think the chief constable of psni should go over yesterdays carryon,??

Hardly. So the PSNI finally do their job and break up an illegal gathering, about time.
I'd be more concerned with the incidents they let pass off unhindered and no consequences for.
Not going to pick funerals out but there was a UVF showcof force a week or so ago, maybe that might be more illustrative of an event that should have been broken up.

It's good to see the shinner politicos, including the deputy first minister, firmly on the side of people breaking the restrictions.
Maybe they should have told them people to stay at home?

piplip87 · 06-02-2021 9:16am

Regardless of who wrote the letter the behaviour of Culliane in the Dail the other day was disgraceful. Only a few weeks ago the Shinners were outraged that Donnelly did not show respect to the Leas Ceann Comhaire.

I see RTEbias was trending again after the Taoiseachs appearance on Prime Time. Apparently talking about the opposition when on TV is bad now. Yet when ever Marylou get the opportunity she lambasted the government and rightly so it's their job in opposition. Yet they want the fuel the narrative that RTE is against SF even though RTE are the main drivers of the fallout from golfgate. This RTEBIAS crap is the Irish Version of Fake news.

I also see plans are been drawn up to remove local authorities from some of the planning applications, this will be most welcome we may see some more housing getting built without the usual SF objections.

Bishop of hope · 06-02-2021 9:17am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The UVF had their show of strength 2 days ago,at which the psni stood by and done nothing

Yesterday they could arrest people attending an commeration,to.my eyes the psni arent impartial anymore and support for them,should be pulled.....or else push for chief constable to resign

Maybe the politicians on both sides should just tell their people stfah.

But I agree with your point ré the UVF thing.
I'd be more concerned with that passing unhindered.
If I was looking for the chiefs head, there's where I'd start, not with a situation where they actually done their job!

Fionn1952 · 06-02-2021 9:32am

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Maybe the politicians on both sides should just tell their people stfah.

But I agree with your point ré the UVF thing.
I'd be more concerned with that passing unhindered.
If I was looking for the chiefs head, there's where I'd start, not with a situation where they actually done their job!

I'd be hard pressed to describe it as doing their job.

A commemoration for an attack on innocent people, aided by the State itself probably isn't the time for a hard handed approach. The attendees claim that it was socially distanced (albeit I've heard there were more than the currently recommended numbers in attendance).

I'd argue that a de-escalating approach would've been more appropriate given the sensitive nature of the commemoration. With having allowed a Loyalist Paramilitary show of force to proceed unhindered the other day, all cries of, 'well the rules are the rules and we will enforce them regardless' are gone out the window.

Whether one agrees with my take on it or not, it is indisputably bad optics for the PSNI to arrest Mark Sykes, who was shot 7 times in said attack they were commemorating. Of all people, he is one that should've been afforded a degree of sensitivity with regards to their actions.

Would you have been celebrating the Gardai doing their job had they started busting up Det. Colm Horkan's funeral with batons and started arresting mourners, or looked at the situation and suggested that perhaps fines and warnings would've been more appropriate?

06-02-2021 10:24am

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Maybe the politicians on both sides should just tell their people stfah.

But I agree with your point ré the UVF thing.
I'd be more concerned with that passing unhindered.
If I was looking for the chiefs head, there's where I'd start, not with a situation where they actually done their job!

They are standing on this policy of holding police to account.....looks evident to me,they have no intention of

Whats the point of supporting a police force,that isnt impartial?

Bishop of hope · 06-02-2021 10:48am

Looks like the unionists are jumping on this one.
The Gardai are going to enforce the border.
The unionists claiming a sort of victory with this, jesus you can do nothing with the north that isn't seen as some sort of sectarian battle or victory.
Evidenced by the furore of the restrictions policing up there lately and now this.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/garda-to-close-border-to-all-non-essential-travel-40058046.html

FrancieBrady · 06-02-2021 11:06am

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Looks like the unionists are jumping on this one.
The Gardai are going to enforce the border.
The unionists claiming a sort of victory with this, jesus you can do nothing with the north that isn't seen as some sort of sectarian battle or victory.
Evidenced by the furore of the restrictions policing up there lately and now this.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/garda-to-close-border-to-all-non-essential-travel-40058046.html

Some Unionists are clinging to anything that might save their blushes. What's news about that?

McMurphy · 06-02-2021 11:12am

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Looks like the unionists are jumping on this one.
The Gardai are going to enforce the border.
The unionists claiming a sort of victory with this, jesus you can do nothing with the north that isn't seen as some sort of sectarian battle or victory.
Evidenced by the furore of the restrictions policing up there lately and now this.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/garda-to-close-border-to-all-non-essential-travel-40058046.html

That is a fairly sensationalist headline.

The gards are hardly "enforcing a hard border" by applying the same rules to folk from the north wanting to sun their torsos in Lanzo, as the rest of us.

They're going to stop people who are not going on essential journeys, regardless if they're from Enniskillen, or Enniscorthy.

It's hardly check point Charlie on every conceivable crossing point of the north/south border now is it.

Why do you keep posting links to the unionist Belfast telegraph

FrancieBrady · 06-02-2021 11:33am

McMurphy wrote: »

That is a fairly sensationalist headline.

The gards are hardly "enforcing a hard border" by applying the same rules to folk from the north wanting to sun their torsos in Lanzo, as the rest of us.

They're going to stop people who are not going on essential journeys, regardless if they're from Enniskillen, or Enniscorthy.

It's hardly check point Charlie on every conceivable crossing point of the north/south border now is it.

Why do you keep posting links to the unionist Belfast telegraph

How can somebody not see the slanting of that article? It would be like me posting a link to An Phoblacht

File it under 'rabble rousing' Bish.

Bishop of hope · 06-02-2021 12:47pm

McMurphy wrote: »

That is a fairly sensationalist headline.

The gards are hardly "enforcing a hard border" by applying the same rules to folk from the north wanting to sun their torsos in Lanzo, as the rest of us.

They're going to stop people who are not going on essential journeys, regardless if they're from Enniskillen, or Enniscorthy.

It's hardly check point Charlie on every conceivable crossing point of the north/south border now is it.

Why do you keep posting links to the unionist Belfast telegraph

I know, the hoors.

Bishop of hope · 06-02-2021 12:52pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How can somebody not see the slanting of that article? It would be like me posting a link to An Phoblacht

File it under 'rabble rousing' Bish.

OK, so it's nothing.
Now I was probably one of the first on here to suggest closing or at least policing the border should be considered.
It was met with much hostility by a lot of people at the time.
I see it might be a goer now and there's not much about it.
Are we seeing border enforcement or just restrictive movement enforcement?

rdwight · 06-02-2021 12:58pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqMFXJMW8AAlO2E?format=jpg&name=large

What’s this all about?

Not happening here surely.

Any idea if this is genuine? Even if it is, as somebody on the reddit commented, the youth wings of most parties are mad. Would have to be pretty stupid to commit multiple profiles tactic to paper.

Does it happen here? I wouldn't say boards.ie is flooded with shinnerbot accounts but there are a small number of posters who post huge numbers of posts without ever really deviating from the erstwhile SF line (they sometimes get undercut by SF themselves changing tack)

I believe they are probably enthusiastic fellow travellers but the sheer volume of posts sometimes makes me wonder.

McMurphy · 06-02-2021 12:58pm

Bishop of hope wrote: »

OK, so it's nothing.
Now I was probably one of the first on here to suggest closing or at least policing the border should be considered.
It was met with much hostility by a lot of people at the time.
I see it might be a goer now and there's not much about it.
Are we seeing border enforcement or just restrictive movement enforcement?

You're seeing neither, if you read the article properly you'll see that.

"An Garda Síochána is also continuing to conduct checkpoints on access roads to airports and ports, as well as in departure areas, to check on whether people travelling to these locations are undertaking an essential journey.

"Travelling to an airport or port to take a holiday abroad is not an essential journey," the Garda said in a statement.

The force said if enforcement is required a fixed payment notice for €100 will be issued to each person who is in breach of the regulation.

The new rules mean the Garda can turn back day-trippers from Northern Ireland.

Under the Republic's current Covid-19 restrictions, travel is restricted to within 5km of a person's home except for essential reasons.

People travelling to an airport or port to take a holiday abroad may also be liable for a €500 fine.

They're hardly stopping people from going from Ballyshannon to Belleek, they're just applying the same rules to people from the north wanting to jet off using our airports as they're applying to residents here.

FrancieBrady · 06-02-2021 1:01pm

Bishop of hope wrote: »

OK, so it's nothing.
Now I was probably one of the first on here to suggest closing or at least policing the border should be considered.
It was met with much hostility by a lot of people at the time.
I see it might be a goer now and there's not much about it.
Are we seeing border enforcement or just restrictive movement enforcement?

They aren't policing the border Bish...I live on it, and I can assure you they never did and aren't.

blanch152 · 06-02-2021 2:52pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqMFXJMW8AAlO2E?format=jpg&name=large

What’s this all about?

Not happening here surely.

It is a QUB whatsapp group, but I would be interested in those 2018 social media guidelines if any of the regulars have them.

maccored · 06-02-2021 3:02pm

blanch152 wrote: »

It is a QUB whatsapp group, but I would be interested in those 2018 social media guidelines if any of the regulars have them.

never heard of them - you prob want to talk to QUB students

FrancieBrady · 06-02-2021 3:21pm

blanch152 wrote: »

It is a QUB whatsapp group, but I would be interested in those 2018 social media guidelines if any of the regulars have them.

When constructing a forgery it's a good idea to make sure the paragraphs you insert run parallel to the ones already there. There is a noticeable difference here. Obvious photoshop to me.

blanch152 · 06-02-2021 3:25pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

When constructing a forgery it's a good idea to make sure the paragraphs you insert run parallel to the ones already there. There is a noticeable difference here. Obvious photoshop to me.

Well, maybe post the real social media guidelines instead.

FrancieBrady · 06-02-2021 3:32pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Well, maybe post the real social media guidelines instead.

:)

SOCIAL MEDIA GUIDELINES 2018

*Use smiley face emojis every time another ruse fails on them.
By Order:
The Beardy One,
Antrim Hills,
northern Ireland somewhere.
July 2018

Brendan Bendar · 06-02-2021 3:47pm

Hmmmm........

Bishop of hope · 06-02-2021 6:42pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/GerryAdamsSF/status/1358109107237044236

At least someone speaking out,unlike the media here covering it up

A few dry replies there, funny some of them, but not all complimentary.
Covid lads, stay at home and no worries.

Brendan Bendar · 06-02-2021 10:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah yeah coverup the psni wrongdoings and hide behind covid as an excuse for political inaction.....time for shinners to pull the plug on supporting em imho

Good call..... sure what could go wrong:D

FrancieBrady · 06-02-2021 10:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah yeah coverup the psni wrongdoings and hide behind covid as an excuse for political inaction.....time for shinners to pull the plug on supporting em imho

PSNI have apologised and suspended an officer.

blanch152 · 07-02-2021 12:46am

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-will-be-required-to-give-details-of-political-spending-on-both-sides-of-border-to-sipo-40057955.html

I see the Sinn Fein finances remain under scrutiny.

Fionn1952 · 07-02-2021 1:04am

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-will-be-required-to-give-details-of-political-spending-on-both-sides-of-border-to-sipo-40057955.html

I see the Sinn Fein finances remain under scrutiny.

Maybe let's wait for a conclusion before w*nking ourselves into a coma?

I'd be surprised if a few questionable things don't turn up on the Shinner books, but Christ Blanch, you really are tied to the, 'throw it at the wall and see if it sticks' level of scrutiny with them, despite asking for sources and proof when it comes to FG, despite your insistence you don't vote that way...

blanch152 · 07-02-2021 3:35pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

Maybe let's wait for a conclusion before w*nking ourselves into a coma?

I'd be surprised if a few questionable things don't turn up on the Shinner books, but Christ Blanch, you really are tied to the, 'throw it at the wall and see if it sticks' level of scrutiny with them, despite asking for sources and proof when it comes to FG, despite your insistence you don't vote that way...

I produced a link to a newspaper report, which is a lot more than the random Twitter links produced by your comrades.

The Sinn Fein finances have been under discussion for quite a while with an awful lot of funny business going on. Definitely needs an investigation.

07-02-2021 4:06pm

Time to pull plug on support for the psni.....things will never change,if they assured of blind political support

https://mobile.twitter.com/GT1888/status/1358365103180173312

Fionn1952 · 07-02-2021 5:44pm

blanch152 wrote: »

I produced a link to a newspaper report, which is a lot more than the random Twitter links produced by your comrades.

The Sinn Fein finances have been under discussion for quite a while with an awful lot of funny business going on. Definitely needs an investigation.

A newspaper report stating they are going to investigate them, Blanch. Like I said, you're off in a flurry to condemn at the investigation stage, yet when FG are under any sort of pressure, you ask for outcomes not investigations.

I'll also ask you to drop the pathetic, 'comrades' sh*te....if you weren't so blinded by your need to lash out at SF, you would've noted that my post was actually critical of them.

Yes, their finances need to be investigated, 100% agree....they are being investigated, great! That isn't the same thing as being found guilty, but you have absolutely zero non partisanship whatsoever, so you're jumping in with two feet as if they've already been found guilty of wrongdoing. Maybe they will....as I suggested, maybe we wait for an outcome before tearing the sweets off ourselves?

blanch152 · 07-02-2021 9:03pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

A newspaper report stating they are going to investigate them, Blanch. Like I said, you're off in a flurry to condemn at the investigation stage, yet when FG are under any sort of pressure, you ask for outcomes not investigations.

I'll also ask you to drop the pathetic, 'comrades' sh*te....if you weren't so blinded by your need to lash out at SF, you would've noted that my post was actually critical of them.

Yes, their finances need to be investigated, 100% agree....they are being investigated, great! That isn't the same thing as being found guilty, but you have absolutely zero non partisanship whatsoever, so you're jumping in with two feet as if they've already been found guilty of wrongdoing. Maybe they will....as I suggested, maybe we wait for an outcome before tearing the sweets off ourselves?

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-will-be-required-to-give-details-of-political-spending-on-both-sides-of-border-to-sipo-40057955.html

I see the Sinn Fein finances remain under scrutiny.

Where is the flurry to condemn at the investigation stage?

You need to put aside your confirmation bias and look at what I wrote.

07-02-2021 9:09pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Where is the flurry to condemn at the investigation stage?

You need to put aside your confirmation bias and look at what I wrote.

blanch152 wrote: »

The Sinn Fein finances have been under discussion for quite a while with an awful lot of funny business going on. Definitely needs an investigation.

Too easy really

blanch152 · 07-02-2021 9:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Too easy really

Calling for an investigation is now deemed condemnation?

You guys need to get some perspective.

a very cool kid · 07-02-2021 9:31pm

Re: the finances all parties have to submit their financials now where organised both sides of the border. If there is no issue it's just good practice - Greens, PBP on both sides too.

Who said anything about ****?

blanch152 · 07-02-2021 9:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Almost as if you have yourself convinced yous didnt say "an awlful lot of funny business going on"

Like,i dunno,who yous are trying to fool here....but logicaĺly your not making sense

From the outside a lot of funny business is going on, whether or not that is illegal is what needs to be investigated.

As always, whenever the hint of a question is raised about Sinn Fein, the deflector and defence arrays go into overdrive.

blanch152 · 07-02-2021 9:34pm

a very cool kid wrote: »

Re: the finances all parties have to submit their financials now where organised both sides of the border. If there is no issue it's just good practice - Greens, PBP on both sides too.

Who said anything about ****?

I think what SIPO are saying is that they have no problem with what PBP and the Greens are doing, they have questions over Sinn Fein.

Fionn1952 · 07-02-2021 9:46pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Where is the flurry to condemn at the investigation stage?

You need to put aside your confirmation bias and look at what I wrote.

My confirmation bias Blanch?

Fionn1952 wrote: »

I'd be surprised if a few questionable things don't turn up on the Shinner books

Did you miss that in your haste to refer to me and my, 'comrades' to lump me in as one of your so called Shinnerbots? I've regularly been critical of SF for the record (and been very open about my voting history with them, which I'm happy to repeat; they got my vote for tactical reasons when living in Fermanagh. Living in your own constituency for the last election, SF were 6th on my transfer preference if I recall correctly, with Aengus Ó Maoláin followed by Roderic O'Gorman being my first and second preference).

Like I said, you're gleefully off on one before the verdict, but that's par for the course really. Innocent until proven guilty (unless you can use it to smear the Shinners).

blanch152 · 07-02-2021 9:50pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

My confirmation bias Blanch?

Did you miss that in your haste to refer to me and my, 'comrades' to lump me in as one of your so called Shinnerbots? I've regularly been critical of SF for the record (and been very open about my voting history with them, which I'm happy to repeat; they got my vote for tactical reasons when living in Fermanagh. Living in your own constituency for the last election, SF were 6th on my transfer preference if I recall correctly, with Aengus Ó Maoláin followed by Roderic O'Gorman being my first and second preference).

Like I said, you're gleefully off on one before the verdict, but that's par for the course really. Innocent until proven guilty (unless you can use it to smear the Shinners).

Drawing attention to a well-deserved investigation is not gleefully off on one before the verdict, despite your protestations.

Fionn1952 · 07-02-2021 9:56pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Drawing attention to a well-deserved investigation is not gleefully off on one before the verdict, despite your protestations.

Going off about, 'an awful lot of funny business' and accusing posters of deflecting and defending for suggesting that maybe we should wait for a verdict before making up our minds certainly strikes me as gleefully going off on one, despite your protestations.

Any chance you could acknowledge and withdraw your, 'comrades' jibe while you're at it?

markodaly · 07-02-2021 10:17pm

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-will-be-required-to-give-details-of-political-spending-on-both-sides-of-border-to-sipo-40057955.html

I see the Sinn Fein finances remain under scrutiny.

SF ROI and SF NI will need to need to hire a chef to cook the books.
They are after all the richest party in the state by far.
I wonder how much money they have is dirty money, fuelled by the proceeds of crime and illegal activity?

smurgen · 07-02-2021 10:20pm

markodaly wrote: »

SF ROI and SF NI will need to need to hire a chef to cook the books.
They are after all the richest party in the state by far.
I wonder how much money they have is dirty money, fuelled by the proceeds of crime and illegal activity?

Zzzzzzzzz sorry zoned out there for awhile. Thought I was in the conspiracy theory forum.

markodaly · 07-02-2021 10:40pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f%C3%A9in-is-the-richest-political-party-in-ireland-1.4193124

Sinn Féin is the richest political party on the island of Ireland, with about 200 staff and, according to its director of finance, Des Mackin, an extensive network of more than 50 properties.

There should be an audit to see how all these properties were paid for. Perhaps the Irish people are owed back taxes as well for undeclared income.

FrancieBrady · 07-02-2021 10:42pm

markodaly wrote: »

I wonder how much money they have is dirty money, fuelled by the proceeds of crime and illegal activity?

I wonder that about all political parties.

markodaly · 07-02-2021 10:50pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I wonder that about all political parties.

Start with the richest first, SF NI and then go onto SF ROI...

FrancieBrady · 07-02-2021 10:57pm

markodaly wrote: »

Start with the richest first, SF NI and then go onto SF ROI...

Well go on...tell us what you know about their finances. How much came from crime?...back up what ever you say, like this:
I know FG financed themselves on the basis of long running tax evasion.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/fine-gael-admits-tax-evasion-over-period-of-9-years-1.307406?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Ffine-gael-admits-tax-evasion-over-period-of-9-years-1.307406

That's how this works.

markodaly · 07-02-2021 11:00pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That's how this works.

A 20-year-old article? That the best you can do?

Its clear that there are lots of questions about SF finances, hence SIPO asking them.
It has been long established that SF has links with organised crime, sure the best republican of them all, Slab Murphy is in Jail because of it.
Lots of dirty money floating around SF, every dog in the street knows it. How else can they become the richest party in the state by far?

FrancieBrady · 07-02-2021 11:07pm

markodaly wrote: »

A 20-year-old article? That the best you can do?

Its clear that there are lots of questions about SF finances, hence SIPO asking them.
It has been long established that SF has links with organised crime, sure the best republican of them all, Slab Murphy is in Jail because of it.
Lots of dirty money floating around SF, every dog in the street knows it. How else can they become the richest party in the state by far?

Ah, the 20 year cut off again. Good to know.

Anytime you have some facts to post, do so. Thanks.

a very cool kid · 07-02-2021 11:11pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because each TD gets paid the average wage,while the government pays them just shy of 100K

They definitely haven't done this in a long time, you're only allowed give a pretty low maximum per individual to the party too. So if they are doing this it's illegal.

markodaly · 07-02-2021 11:13pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ah, the 20 year cut off again. Good to know.

Anytime you have some facts to post, do so. Thanks.

What is good for the goose.....

Its an opinion Francie, one shared by many, including many in the Gardai. Republicans and SF insiders are experts at money laundering, it is very conceivable how these talents are used or were used for the behest of SF the organisation.

a very cool kid · 07-02-2021 11:20pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was under impression,yous could pay it straight into a central fund anď it be paid out as allowence?

Actually yous are correct....geos along way to explaining things.....IMO we should reduce the TD and ministers and presifent salerys to the AIW (or down to zero until covid crisis is sorted,mighy focus a few minds)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f%25C3%25A9in-tds-donate-2-500-to-party-out-of-96-000-salary-1.4173101%3fmode=amp

Nah, you need good talented people to be TDs and Ministers. It's an awful job (particularly if you are aligned with the government) and should be rewarded fairly.

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