Nintendo: General Discussion

Nintendo are the Ebeneezer Scrooge of the gaming industry. Bah humbug!

Unofficial Link's Awakening PC port put to sleep by Nintendo

It didn't take them long to act on this. It's a pity they're not as quick in other regards.

Yes, Nintendo's Next Generation Games Are Going To Be 70 Bucks.

#### that! If this is true, and it's something I can definitely see Nintendo doing, then they can go to hell.

The €70 price tag started with this generation, which is wrong in my opinion. But Switch 2 if we're lucky will be as powerful as last gen hardware.

Nintendo are the greediest and most miserly company around. Just look at the games on Switch, many of which are Wii U ports, and they're still €60. Or their remasters/remakes of the likes of Skyward Sword HD, Link's Awakening HD, Super Mario RPG, Super Mario 3D All-Stars, Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee, Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition, Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe, etc, etc.

The Wii U eShop closed its doors earlier this year, more than a decade after it released with a tonne of its games still €60 as they drove the final nail in its coffin before it slid to its grave. I'll never forget SSB Wii U(€60) with its convoluted DLC packs, that didn't have a season pass and cost well over €100 for a fraction of the content of the base game. And it was equally as messy on 3DS.

At least other companies have sales, proper sales, unlike Nintendo. A game that releases on other platforms often get sales and price reductions with the first year if not months. Nintendo advertise sales with up to 75% off, but that doesn't include 1st party games. You'll be lucky to get 33% off, and it's only for digital games. Physical games remain full price. And when Nintendo do hardware bundles, if a "game" is included, it's a digital code. There's no Nintendo Selects range of games on Switch either.

What's Nintendo's justification for the price hike, should it happen? Is it once again because they see the competition doing something and they automatically think can do this because they see themselves as the Disney of the video game industry? The Switch cartridges are prohibitively expensive, 3rd parties so often cheap out and use small cartridges, with massive downloads required. So it is cartridge cost? TOTK was €70, many believe it was because it used a 32GB cartridge, with Nintendo passing on that cost to the consumer. Mortal Kombat 1 was the second €70 game on Switch and first from a 3rd party. What a broken disgraceful mess that was. We shouldn't be paying the same price as next gen consoles for an inferior game in every way possible. And they will be watered down experiences on Switch 2 as well.

The Switch is coming up on 7 years old, and I don't think there's much more than 10 games, if even that, that have used a 32GB cartridge. 64GB cartridges are the stuff of fiction.

That's an article from 2017. Wii U had standard 25GB proprietary discs that cheap to mass produce. What size are Switch 2 cartridges going to be? Are they going to use the same crazy expensive proprietary process that protects Nintendo from piracy at all costs, but a cartridge that is limited in capacity and production scale? Where consumers are the ones(AGAIN!) who will pay the price both figuratively and literally?

The same resources that went into developing say Skyward Sword as an example on the Wii, did not go into upgrading Skyward Sword HD. Now as someone here pointed out on another thread, Wii games were €50. Skyward Sword HD on Switch costs €60. Did Nintendo have to create a new storyline, compose new music, NPC's, enemies, towns, side quests, all the collectibles, dungeons, etc, etc, etc?

No they didn't. The vast majority of the heavy lifting has been done already. Companies are all over ports/remasters/remakes like a plague because they are infinitely cheaper to make than starting a completely new game from scratch.

They also pointed out that while Nintendo Wii games were €50, PS3 and Xbox360 games were €60. Nintendo didn't have to deal with HD development back then, but when they did with Wii U, game prices went up to €60. As I wrote elsewhere, PS4 games weren't €70, they were €60. So if Switch 2 games are going to be on par with PS4 games, then they should remain at €60.

This is Nintendo looking at others once again doing something and saying we can do that too because we're the Disney of gaming. Even though development costs won't be as high as PS5/XB Series. They did the same with online, even though their service is garbage. They did it simply because they can and it's yet more revenue for them. Nintendo aren't paupers, not even remotely close. They've posted revenue of around $12 billion each year for the last number of years. They can well afford to keep game prices at €60, they could well afford a Switch price drop(sales are dropping in certain regions). I don't care what anybody says, I stand by my statement that they are the greediest ##### around, and miserly too. Wii U ports to Switch should have been cheaper, they weren't and still aren't. And they tried some underhand tactics, removing them from the Wii U eShop where some were €25(though reversed the decision after negative publicity). They charged €10 more for DKC: Tropical Freeze on Switch than originally on Wii U, €60 v €50. And that too was €25 on Wii U at that stage. Adding Funky Kong mode sure was expensive for Nintendo to develop on Switch. 😐

And this new €70 price tag won't be for new big budget Switch 2 games, it'll be across the board, regardless. Just look at what they're at now with cheap ports on Switch. And again, they will stay that way across the years, it won't matter if they're not evergreen titles. How many copies do you think Nintendo are still selling of ARMS? Feck all I'd imagine! It doesn't matter, it still costs €60 for a title that released shortly after the Switch launch.

Rumour: Bayonetta Trilogy releasing on Switch 2

I definitely think Bayonetta 3 was developed with a Switch Pro in mind, but they had the rug pulled out from under them when Nintendo scrapped it for the OLED model instead. Bayonetta 3 will benefit from the improved performance of Switch 2, all 3 games should.