Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

When you say we know exactly where they are, what have we in place to do that?

Do we put trackers on them or assign guards to follow them around 24/7 or what exactly do we have in place to ensure we know exactly where they are at all times?

I would think its very easy for someone to be placed somewhere and then leave and go elsewhere so we don't know where they are, but obviously that is not the case.

As you claim we know exactly where they are then I am looking forward to knowing how we implement this process.

In regards EU citizens I thought I read here yesterday that we have a system that will tell us straight away if anyone from the EU has a criminal conviction?

Population of Ireland 5 million, world population is what ? This argument that as the Irish emigrated so we have to take in all comers is getting tired now.

The flooding bath will be the push you needed to get that new bathroom you haven't been able to afford or organise up till now though!

Which is not what I said at all.

We currently have 1.5 million of our Irish born citizens living overseas. Why have our government not taken our population into account, if they had maintained services in line with the population, there wouldn't be any issues with having half that amount in immigrants

I never said anything about fingerprints on EU citizens, i said it was mentioned we have a system where we can check if they have a conviction using their documentation.

Can a criminal be placed to live somewhere and then move to somewhere else where we don't then know where they are?

If the answer is yes then your claim that we know exactly where they are is a lie.

If the answer is no then explain how we know exactly where they are.

Nope. No such system. Having a conviction does not stop you from travelling anywhere.

The rest of your question doesn't make sense I'm afraid?

Ukrainians get free money

Free accommodation for Ukrainians plus 220 a week, no ?

Ireland does have an " open border ", both in reality and in theory, through both legal and illegal means.

In reality, there is an open border with the UK. In reality, anyone who enters the UK by whatever means can subsequently enter Ireland if they so wish. Have you caught the Enterprise lately ? Or had a little drive around Monaghan or Donegal ? You can even fly from the London Heathrow to the Republic Of Ireland without a Passport. A badly printed student ID or workplace card will do.

In theory, Ireland has a managed border entry points. However, in reality people can present themselves at Dublin airport without documents ( " the dog ate them " ) and they will be permitted to the state. At which point there is a less than 1% chance they will actually ever be physically deported.

And with the size of the coastline and the resources of the Irish Navy and coastgoard, I wonder how long before the lads operating the unnoficial Calais operations will take their chances ?

So yes, Ireland does have " Open Borders ".

In theory you can fly from UK to Ireland but in practice you cannot as the airlines insist on a passport to travel. Indeed there are no security checks on arrival at Heathrow for people travelling from Ireland.

Don't think this is the case with the sea ports though - no passport required.

Doesn’t happen like that - you know this. The tents are very temporary. You know that as well. They will be found accommodation and will never be sent home. ever. we don’t deport people. Too much hassle for the lads.

And can i ask a genuine question do you think this should be allowed? If you have a conviction for a misdemeanour offence, fine. But what about serious crime. Sex crimes. GBH. Should offender be allowed move jurisdiction? Genuine questions and looking for a qualified answer. thanks

We fingerprints IPAs, we also hold investigations into their application, which everyone knows takes too long, but it's done as thoroughly as possible.

I'm afraid if you're worried about criminals in our country, you need to worry about Irish citizens, UK citizen and EU citizens. At least the international applicants are investigated.

Oh, and criminals are not barred from travel you know, they can go wherever anyone else can (there are restrictions on sex offenders though)

Refugees get a stipend to survive on. If you want to call that free money, that's your choice. The way I see it is that this person lands here, eventually qualifies for Irish citizenship if he isn't deported. He builds a life here, contributes. The State gets it's money back. So if you want to quibble over a few quid stipend for a refugee, well that's your choice.

Sorry, but you are completely, totally wrong there.

Due to the Common Travel Area no passport is required.

Individual carriers operate their own individual policies but these are separate from Irish and British law.

Both British Airways and Aer Lingus will fly you to Ireland with NO passport. Ryanair do insist on a passport.

All that is required is a form of photographic ID. I don't even want to put it here to give people ideas, but I have used forms of totally unofficial ID that you can obtain off the high street. Same with both major ferry companies.

I have flown out of Dublin using my work ID in a lanyard. NO PASSPORT.

I am not very worried about Irish citizens, UK citizens or EU citizens because we have information about them and they are not countries with as much backwards views.

I am verry worried about people who come here who we don't know anything about and they roam the streets while we try find out about them.

Especially when they come from countries with backwards views towards women and gays etc and believe in carrying terrorist attacks in Europe.

Scary how we allow possible criminals onto the streets without knowing who they are.

It is certainly something that should be communicated to locals before they move them in.

Well you're worries don't seem to be grounded in reality. We have no information on any UK or EU citizens that come here.

Those other people ( seems you mean Muslims) are all investigated when they come here.

It seems like you're trying to make non EU citizens out as a big risk, but UK and EU as no risk.

FYI, all people are capable of committing crime. All people

It was mentioned here yesterday we have a system for the EU where we can check if a person has a criminal conviction based on them having documentation.

I never said UK and EU are no risk, I said I am not as worried.

It is not EU or UK citizens that have turned Sweden into the gun capital of Europe, or not the UK or any citizens from an EU country that is showing up on the top of the rape statistics of any other EU country.

That is why I am far more worried about non documented people from countries who ruined Sweeden and top rape crime statistics in other countries.

Just like the Finland one posted here the other day.

Major logical disconnect here, with pro-refugee posters acknowledging that we lack the housing and services required our own population, yet still demanding we accommodate unlimited numbers of asylum seekers - which can only COMPOUND the problem.

Of course, then cry 'racist' when people take issue with it.

Yes homelessness is horrible. Nobody should be forced to sleep in a tent. As I said earlier, if this country had started investing in infrastructure we wouldn't be in this mess. Election after election, we will fix the housing problem, vote for us. Yeah, still waiting. Most of the people I know talk about how things have become bloody expensive and laugh at some of the prices printed on shelves. Yeah, not buying that at that price.

I'm looking forward to the New Year, this one for me has been a doozy.

Fair enough. As you do state though Ryanair require a passport and the vast majority of flights to/from the UK are Ryanair flights.

That’s fine… but how many? 500k 1 million? where does it stop? Do we cap how many come here or is that complete wrong in the eyes of the Pro Immigration people?

You see for every person that qualifies and pays taxes there will be a joseph puska (and i’m not talking about his horrific crime but his absolute sponging of the system for the entire time he has been here).

As i’ve said all along, all for immigration but it has to be controlled capped and strict. It has to match what’s available in the country.