Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I wonder if there are any strategies that would further minimize civilian casualties?

Has the IDF achieved some kind of an operational stability now where they could now try other tacks ?

Is their some way they can foment division within the ranks of the combatants or civilians ? Offer special deals for information ( eg extricate their immediate family )

Are these sort of tactics ongoing without being publicized ,perhaps.

It's a bit of everything. Even the Taoiseach stated in the Dáil that he felt there was an element of revenge in the Israeli actions in Gaza.

Biden told political donors that the Israeli government wants to punish all Palestinians.

He's probably an armchair general though.

Any Israeli responses to Iranian aggression have been measured, and so far, they have been hitting military targets, or assets used by the Iranian militaries. They recently (October) put both Damascus and Aleppo airports out of commission twice in the same month. I'd say that Iran would prefer not to tangle overmuch with Israel, if they can at all. Israel has a long and very successful history of pre-emptive assassinations, not to mention tracking down and eliminating individuals who have attacked them in any shape or form. What will happen in the future with Israel is anyone's guess, they had a kind of mutual agreement with Russia when it came to hitting targets in Syria to the extent that they did not get involved in condemning Russia for its invasion of Ukraine and basically remained neutral. But since the oct7 attack on Israel, and the Israeli belief that Russia was involved, and promising to sort out the Russians after Hamas has been dealt with, We will have to wait and see how that plays out in the skies over Syria and Iran.

What point are you trying to make with this comment?

israel will be unable to do anything to stop them.

they won't be able to not allow iran to acquire what it is entitled to acquire seeing as other states have the same thing they want to acquire so don't really have any moral or legal authority to stop them.

no amount of israel raping slaughtering and bombing will prevent iran from being the nuclear state it is going to be, so i wouldn't believe israel on what they say, especially as they have been shown to be liers such that they make trump look like a bastian of truth.

Hamas want to wipe out Israel

Meanwhile in Israel

You might as well be watching Russian TV there, wipe them out etc etc

hitler never tried to wipe israel off the map because they didn't exist when he was in power.

yes, he did try to genocide europen jewery and we all know that was disgraceful and unjustifiable in any context and by any metric, but the jews are not israel and israel is not the jews, it's just the only jewish state.

iran is not interested in using nuclear weapons, religiously fundamentalist as they are, but certainly the threat posed to them by israel is one of many reasons why they feel they need to acquire the bomb.

israel may very well attack first but once they do then unless they are nuking iran and that will end badly for them, they aren't ultimately going to win as iran has enough to throw at them and they will throw it at them and israel will lose even with america on board.

if america couldn't defeat inserjants in iraq and afghanistan, then they are going to have very serious issues with trying to take on iran, and that conflict would absolutely require boots on the ground.

israel will survive if it stops being a genocidal, racist, apartheid, expansionist state lead by and ruled on the basis of religious fundamentalism and lieing to the world at every opportunity.

+ go back within it's borders.

Incredibly, this language is far more extreme than anything you would see on Russian TV - I don't think I've ever seen any of Solovyov or Skabayeva's guests calling for the slaughter of Ukrainian women and children.

It doesn't matter?

If Hamas don't accept those borders what do you think will happen?

What happened in 1948?

And the 1947 borders proved to be completely unworkable, as a state conforming to them was militarily indefensible. And nobody other than the Jews accepted the '47 borders, i.e. all the other countries in region immediately attempted to wipe 1947 Israel out of existence.

And attempts to wipe Israel off the map have continued consistently since then.

So the question arises, what borders would Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis etc accept?

doesn't matter, those borders as set out in 1948 are it's borders, that's it, end of story.

israel is not constantly under attack from it's neighbours, it's under periodic attack from what are effectively big firework and stone throwers because israel are stealing and occupying their land since after it's inception.

the 1948 borders function perfectly well for israel, however given israel is a genocidal apartheid racist expansionist state, no border is ever going to function for it because it simply wants more and more territory, and would do whatever to take that territory regardless of what it's neighbours do and don't do.

the hasbara propaganda will not work on this individual.

Back to basics......

Iran V Israel. My view: - Iran are working on developing their own atomic bomb. One of the main reasons they want this bomb is to destroy Israel, and they have said so many times, it's one of their declared priorities.

Israel, well aware of the threat Iran (and others) present, have planned for any attack from Iran (or others) inc use of nuclear weapons, and will respond accordingly. Part of Israeli planning to date has included preemptive strikes aimed at delaying or destroying Iranian nuclear enrichment sites, or logistics centers. They have been successful at this, as well as killing scientists engaged in nuclear weapons development.

Had Iran thought that it could take on Israel in a war and win that war, they would have done it a long time ago. But they haven't and they won't either.

And that's my view.