"average Dublin house prices should fall to ‘the €300,000 mark" according to Many Lou McD.

If there is no margin by definition in the construction of EOBs proposed project housing, how will the government incentivize construction companies to get involved? Is the idea to employ people as direct labour by the new authority? Taking on permanent employees will bring a 30-40% salary overhead by definition in the public sector.

Also, public tendering processes will not deliver savings on material costs, the opposite is more likely.

Would anyone want to spend 300k on a house that they don't fully own or can't sell on the open market.

Credit to Eoin OBroin committing the idea to paper but the proposal needs to be examined in detail.

It seems at first glance that the 300k figure was decided and then everything worked back to that. Deleting site costs and developer margin seems like a backward admission that the 300k claim is not deliverable.

Because the land is being hoarded. The recent taxation measure was brought in to try to combat this, but it is a bit too low to have had any impact yet

BTW, I wasn't suggesting the developers just hire 5 lads. That was in relation to the ability of the public sector to substitute for the developers. I focused the response on the developer margin aspect

I think Gerry must feed her a script every now and again.

Ahh Sinn Fein expect all their supporters to work for free on building houses

I know you didn't suggest it, I'm suggesting it in order to demonstrate that I don't think your point makes any sense.

You believe that 5 people on 100K each can replace a builder.

You also believe that a builder makes at least 5M on a site of 100 houses.

So the question remains, why wouldnt a builder just pay 5 lads the 500K and then he pockets at least 4.5M without having to do anything?

Also, if its this easy, why isnt everyone setting themselves up as a developer?

If the state land is to be used, does that not mean the local councils will loose money as they won't be selling land to private developers?

I think with a program like SF are proposing it needs to be explained. I've yet to see the actual details, beyond the headline 300k figure.... which didn't get much traction, so a new figure popped up, even lower at 250k. Either way, it needs to be costed.

Well you've qualified your original statement somewhat...

But with some of the lowest population density in Europe we're not running out of land anytime soon.

Labour shortages the big problem, too long ignored by FFG and still they do nothing about it.

How will Eoin OBroins plan specifically address this labour issue?

theyre clearly trying to pull in some of those floating centrist's with their stance on property tax, it ll work to some degree, but we clearly cant continue with increasing wealth inequality in particular related to property, so someone is gonna have to break stuff and upset a lot of people, but at the moment, it aint gonna be any of the three main parties, so it probably wont happen at all.....

we clearly have no clue what a sf lead government would be like, but as it stands at the moment, they d have to form one with ff, so its actually looking very possible, we ll simply have another ffg government after the ge, and if thats the case, get ready for a lot more stuff to be burnt to the ground!

sf incompetence, well we could take a good look at our current governments situation in regards competency!

yup, no one has a clue or any sort of plan in how to approach the actual problem of capacity, so sorry folks, our property market is screwed for the remainder of this decade anyway!

really! ffg are flying along, our 'issues' such as housing and health care system issues are really only minor issues, that ireland is really just fine, seriously!

do you really think your kids, grand kids, nieces and nephews see ireland this way! and from this, im sure, they ll just run to further support another ffg lead government, and definitely wont say, ta hell with this, we re voting anything but, including, and in particular sf! get ready now!

get ready, you re gonna be very very disappointed, when a hell of a lot of those young folk vote for sf, demanding a sf lead government, and if they dont get it, some of those folk are gonna raise hell, they ll just continue burning and wrecking things, until significant change occurs!

talking about entitlement, ffg and some of their supporters, are amongst the most entitled, believing their needs and wants, supersede everyone elses, in particular younger generations, and ta hell with those younger generations, get ready now folks, the dominate era of ffg is coming to and end, and us older generations, in particular those of us that own assets such as property, better get use to change, cause its gonna hurt!

oh and if you think sf are bad, just wait, the anti brigade are here, and their solution, lets burn and wreck stuff!

Labour shortages the big problem, too long ignored by FFG and still they do nothing about it

Again, what will SF do differently?

There are two options;

1. Cut welfare to incentivise people to work.
2. Bring in large numbers of non-EU migrant workers

neither of these will be acceptable to SF’s base so what will they do?

That's paywalled, but I think you're allowed to summarise and quote.

Making housing more affordable will allow building to continue to a greater extent during the next downturn, making construction work more stable and attractive in the long term.

Like I said I think SF's plan lacks detail and doesn't go far enough, but at least it's better than 10 years of FFGs do basically nothing approach.

With 60,000 homes at least required per year in the long term, and major retrofit work required by 2040 for the EU ban on fossil fuels, we need far more construction workers.

FFG have done nothing over the last decade to address this.

I don't normally bother with these threads, but this outlook is delusional.

https://vote.sinnfein.ie/budget-2024/