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Possessions left in our house

  • 01-01-2024 11:41am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 21


    Hello

    My brother left a number of large items in my parents house around 20 years ago.

    He has been asked repeatedly by text to remove the items, or to allow us to dispose of them. He says he wants to keep all of the items but will not collect them or arrange for alternative storage. This has been going on for 10 years.

    We do not have a postal address for him.

    Is there anything we can do?

    How do we resolve this?

    Thanks in advance



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭lmk123


    Block him number and burn them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    Simple, advise that they can be collected up to a certain date after which time they will be disposed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Tell him they are already dumped and see what he does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,619 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's an awkward one and you have been patient but if you need the space the stuff has to go.

    But then he is your brother.

    At least try to speak to him in person and come to an agreement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,934 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    makes most sense, but i think id just bin the stuff now, hes been warned, repeatedly, for years, but....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭Deeec


    If you are communicating by text and don't have an address for him then I take it you don't get on anymore and the family are not on friendly terms with him. Are these items of value - if not then just dump them or sell them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    Tell him they will be stored from next week down the bottom of the garden with no cover. If he wants them he'll collect them. If he says fine just dump them, he doesn't really want them



  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭Tiger20


    Are your parents still alive? Whose house is it now and who is sending him the text? If the text is not from the owner of the house then maybe that is why he is ignoring the text .

    Very frustrating situation, from my own family circumstances siblings act in a certain manner and use situations for their own personal power play, deciding what Mam and Dad want (which is really what they want) and trying to exert control over others. Some sort of game may be going on and, easy to say, but from experience try not to get caught up in it and don’t loose your **** over it, rise above it if possible.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21 greencatkin


    My parents have been contacting him, it's their property, and they talk about it a lot to me about how they can't clear their space.

    Definitely some sort of power play going on.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Ten years?

    As suggested above, contact him once more with a fixed date to collect the stuff by, or its going to the dump.

    And do it.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,290 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Send a text saying he has 90 days to arrange collection otherwise it will be assumed he is forfeiting ownership? Could suggest that you are getting quotes to have the house rewired and need to make space and will not be held liable for storage costs for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Why make up stories or excuses? Just grow a pair, tell him the stuff will be dumped and then dump it.

    The stuff is 20 years old ffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Baybay


    Your parents are enabling your sibling to maintain a presence in the house but also seem to expect you to solve the problem. While it’s an issue for them, clearly it isn't a big enough one for them to deal with. For now, this is about a non residential member of the household’s stuff taking up space but if the house needs to be sold or is passed on through inheritance what happens then?

    I agree with others who’ve posted, January 31st deadline for removal of items which after that date will be skipped or sold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Are you living in the house? If not, then butt out. Until your parents die and the house needs to be sold, then it's their problem.

    If they moan to you about it, then give them the suggestions in this thread as options. But THEY are the ones who need to decide what to do, and then do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,934 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    we have no clue of the health status of the parents, we need to be very careful when assuming this, this situation could be causing great stress for them, and if they have further health issues.....

    ...this is also called common sense and having compassion for others....

    i think id be giving a weeks notice, then its off to local charity shops and/or the tip....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    order a skip and text him that you are clearing out that room and that if he wants anything in there to have it gone by say the 14th. then take a pic of it in the skip and ask him is he sure he doesnt want this stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    "...then take a pic of it in the skip and ask him is he sure he doesnt want this stuff"

    Don't do this. He'll say 'yes i DO want that stuff', then you'll have to remove it and he'll leave it there for another 10 years. One of the family contact him with a final collection date, and if it's not collected by then just dump it, tafuq.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,201 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    As above, give a collection date, 30 days out from now and tell him anything not collected by that date will be sent for charity, recycling or waste disposal. My mother done it to me, not out of badness, theere was just sh1t in my old bedroom that I never thought of. I would have liked to look through it but she just dumped the lot. I am not bitter, should have went and cleaned it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    you could say no or even come get it yourself. put the owness on him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    They've been asking him to come get it for TEN YEARS......



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    If that's the case, then the parents need to appoint someone with Power of Attorney to sort it out for them. That person needs to take proper legal advice (ie not from a bunch of bush-lawyers on here), and act according.

    If the OP does something without proper legal understanding and basis, they could easily end up in legal trouble AND start a monumental family argument.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    yes but he would then know that they are in the skip and will be gone if he does nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,391 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    "You have until January 21st to retrieve all of this stuff, or its being disposed of."

    That is all. Your responsibility for him and his possessions ended long ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I find it strange your family has your brother's number but not his home address. I presume he has completely cut ties with the family.

    Like above I'd give him 30 days to get his stuff, then I'd tell him it's gone (I wouldn't actually dump it for another month or so just to see his reaction)

    I don't know I presume he could take a civil case, so if a solicitors letter arrived I'd be contacting the solicitor saying actually we do still have his stuff ,will I arrange it to go to your offices or if you forward his address to his house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,269 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Have SpaceX come take it and add it to their payload, then send him the bill. That should please him.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,290 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my dad threw out my muddy fox courier comp on me years ago. i am very annoyed about that, but annoyed with myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Bin it. 10 years fgs and it's an adult that owns this stuff. I've no time for games and power plas or for adults acting like this.

    He needs to grow up and cop on.

    If the stuff actually meant anything to him he'd have collected it long ago.

    And is anyone really concerned about relations worsening. They don't sound too healthy at the moment imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Take a case about what? You think he has receipts for this 20 year old crap? A contract?

    Nothing about this is going near a courthouse and the answer remains a very simple one, grow a pair, tell him its getting dumped and then dump it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I doubt it would go near a court house myself but it looks like the brother is playing "silly beggars" with the parents.

    So I wouldn't put it past him going to a solicitor to "scare" his parents.

    At least if they did get a letter, they can say well here's your stuff best of luck.

    If the parents don't hear anything after telling him the stuff is dumped....then just dump it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I have full confidence that this chap will not be paying any solicitor for a letter that everybody knows is meaningless fluff.

    But even if there was a letter, why do you assumes that mean he will then lift his stuff?

    If they are scared of a letter that will never come then their answer becomes even simpler. Dump it and don't tell him. He hasn't looked for it in 20 years, they have to be stupidly meek to think he will suddenly come looking for it now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,494 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    "grow a pair' 🙄

    It's unreasonable of you to expect this. Women (or anyone else) do not require testicles to be assertive.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,201 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    It's an expression, not a demand, as I am sure you are well aware and has nothing to do with literally growing a pair



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,494 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    The poster used that phrase at least twice. I know it's not a demand. I'm simply questioning the language here - a request for advice being met with silly gendered phrases that suggest s/he needs to 'man up'.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,290 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my suggestion would not be to make any demands that are, prima facie, unreasonable - e.g. i think someone suggested earlier that he be given to the 14th; it's very possible he lives in a different jurisdiction. it's been 10 years, give him a reasonable timeframe in which to respond (like 90 days) and don't give him a way to claim some sort of victimhood.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,188 ✭✭✭893bet


    Are you offended? Do you think you will be ok?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,201 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Its a common phrase that in this instance clearly means grow up and cop on. Why it is being commented on at all and dragging the conversation off topic is beyond me. Question the language if you must but also contribute to the discussion. Your post did neither. If the language was offensive or annoying, it should have been reported. You took a phrase that is not literal and made it appear like it was an unreasonable request. This silly beggars type of off point posting does nothing for the discussion. I don't think the poster you quoted actually expected it, therefore the idea that you find there request "unreasonable" is peculiar.


    At the OP, you have two clear choices (well 3 but don't chose the third one).

    1. Chuck his stuff in the bin/recycling/charity shop and say nowt about it. If in the future he comes back into the fold, do what my mother does to my dad or my wife to me, shrug your shoulders, and say 'haven't a notion, not seen that stuff in years'.
    2. Give him a reasonable deadline to collect (or if charitble, ask for an address to drop the stuff off), as after this date 45 days from now it is being disposed of.

    The third option is to leave as is, but you know that is not really an option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,494 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Thanks for the boardsplaining there, CramCycle! If my post is so off topic, why give it oxygen? (I disagree with you by the way - I do believe language and word choice is important and I won't be dissuaded from calling it out.) But aplogies all the same to anyone 'offended'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Deadly serious.

    Family feuds have started over less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    I wouldn't be too worried about a family feud.

    He left the stuff there 20 years ago, they've been asking him to remove it for ten years.

    He'd get one more courtesy notice from me of 30 days, then it would be gone.

    Any attempt at legal action from him would be met with a demand for 20 years of the equivalent of a storage unit fee, at the current rates.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


    This is less about what you can do and more about what your parents are willing to do. You can advise and dispose as many people have said. If your parents are willing to do that there wont be any legal implications for them. If there is anything small and/or valuable you could throw it in the attic. But mouldy old clothes etc, ditch it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Bio Mech




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,523 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Yes, a picture of the stuff in the skip or in the garden will be very powerful, if yer man has any genuine interest in keeping the stuff.

    Don't ask him 'are you sure you don't want it'. Tell him 'It's going to be dumped on a specific date unless you take it'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    thats all i mean . you have evidence you told him and the stuff is being removed if nothing is done to remove it. the ball is firmly in his court



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Life must be difficult if you take everything so literally, and offence so easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,494 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Not offended at all, fella! Read between the lines and mind how you go! 😉

    OP, hope it works out with your brother. Disposal of large items can be expensive - I find freecycle or similar is a great way of passing on any large items that still have some residual use.

    Good luck!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    What types of items are in the house?

    Not that it matters legally, I'm just Curious. Are they things like old furniture, or bicycles, sports equipment, musical instruments etc?

    Some of those things can be really valuable, or worse, can be mistaken for something that might be really valuable and that would lead to resentment and accusations down the road

    'my collection of original Les Paul Guitars and hardback first editions of' Harry Potter' got thrown into a skip"



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    If they were important or valuable then they wouldn't have been left there for twenty years!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You'd be surprised. Bulky things get left at mammy's house when the kids are still renting and haven't the space to store them. These days, that rental stage is longer and longer.

    Doesn't mean the owner doesn't care, maybe just feels it's the safest place for them and is taking the parents for granted that they'll mind them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    20 years though?

    OP, if you really wanted to be nice, you could text him the details of a storage unit company. Tell him to set up an account and the storage unit company will even arrange people to collect his goods for him and bring them to storage, if he doesn't want to collect them himself.

    He has been given every chance. The ball is now in his court.



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