EV Depreciation 2023

The vast majority of my driving in that car is motorway. Local trips are done in my leaf or herself's Ora. I'd generally estimate 175 in winter and 155 or less in summer. I've never seen higher than 180 - even in the worst possible conditions.

Watch Bjorn Nyland's reviews of EVs, he does a 90 & 120 kmh range test and shows exactly what efficiency and range you will get in each, and works out winter and summer range. Himself and Out of Spec are the two best channels for EVs for range and efficiency calculations as they are consistent tests in the same manner on the same roads and they are transparent. Bjorn even has the historical data for all EVs tested available on public google sheeeeets

@sk8board specifically said "for a regular 175km round trip"

Probably was a typo, but interesting that a blow-in to the forum is challenging it.

Destination charging at all @sk8board? You might be within range of a supercharger on this trip?

Is it the agricultural VAT rate you're using then? I thought it was standard VAT 🙂

How was the experience going from the Gti and M3 to a EV. I’ve had a couple of M2’s recently and have just bought a 330e touring to do me for a few months but am very tempted by a Model 3 LR or Performance.

Exactly this yep - no opportunity to destination charge (zero interest in leeching of an OAPs electricity, nor stop for a charge somewhere)

350km round trip, 175km each way.

90% motorway, 5% national, 5% deep rural Ireland - and back.

ive done the trip every month for 25years, 1hr45min each way non-stop, so thats the EV for me.

350km of winter motorway driving is hardly a hard ask for a family car, it’s literally just 3.5hrs at 100kmph from 100-0

Sounds like you're visiting the home place? Your EV life would be easier for you if you granny charged at your destination on those times you need it, which sounds like it would only be a few times in winter. There've been a few times when I've started the trip home with a low SoC and I topped up by a few % just to remove any 'range anxiety' for the return trip. There's a reason it's called a 'granny charger' 🙂

Might make more sense just to pay the OAP the cost of the electricity?

Enough that I never have to think about it. Comfortably more than my regular 250km round trip with 15-25% remaining.

You don't even have to pay the OAP. Just log into the electric account and pay it directly

Cost to charge at public chargers is a big deterrent

Still cheaper than petrol or diesel unless your fossiler is uber-efficient.

Break-even for me was (is) E1.00 per kwh. Figure would be lower if you were used to a more parsimonious vehicle for sure.

But again, for whom is it solely about cost?

Not over there. There are public AC chargers everywhere and they cost only a few cent more per kWh than night rate at home. Also Tesla Superchargers are only a few cent per kWh more again, so extremely affordable and far cheaper than fossil fuel (and now open to non-Tesla owners too as the first pilot in the world)

Thanks for the the detailed response but you've just proven my point. The M3 has measured roughly 305km range in -10degrees at 110km/h so if you bring that to 5ish degrees and headwind (common enough during winter in Ireland) you will be cutting it quite close. The issue is that compared to ICE/PHEV, an EV is extremely risky to drive around with a depleted battery as especially when rural, charging points can be tens of km away if one is not working or busy.

Obviously we are on a forum where people will be much more informed that your average motorist but wanted to point out the issue for a relatively straight forward journey. I've spoken to many an EV owner that was quite surprised about the huge reduction in range at motorway speeds as its basically the opposite what they've know to be the case with ICEs which can often half their consumption at higher steady speeds when compared to urban driving.