EV Depreciation 2023

Is the upside in CO2 and NOX reduction a factor for (m)any? Isn't that surely the biggest upside from an EV, that we're doing something to f-up the planet and environment a bit less than us and our parents did?

For those who can afford them, what's a little inconvenience around planning long trips compared to a less habitable planet for our kids' generation?

*This obviously doesn't refer to or include climate change deniers and China/US/some-othercountry/Green-Party-bad/Ditch-the-car-completely/Greta-is-a-witch whataboutists who can ignore this post.

@josip - the word zealotry was used earlier in reference to citizens who may wish to do their bit to reduce harmful emissions from driving.

Those who dip in and out of here now and again to take delight in depreciation woes, challenges with charging infrastructure, or poor range - you've got to ask yourself, are they worth wasting oxygen over right now?

All progress forwards has momentum challenges and those whose main self-perspective is inwards are most often the last to get involved, but please let's not actually suggest that moving as quickly as we can towards a cleaner transport system is not the right thing to do, or call that zealotry.

Driving electric a long time but I think an old banger is the most environmentally friendly choice. Motor tax should probably encourage it!

I think its reasonable to acknowledge that some people currently have a difficulty running EVs. You cant wish all problems away. Im sure better solutions will be implemented in future but are not there for some today when people are trying to decide to move to an EV

Of course there's loads of options but they all have one thing in common - inconvenience

Just wondering will there be more Chinese cars flooding the European Market in 2024?

Surely that will put downward pressure both new and used electric prices... I think the second half of the year will see this happening.... thoughts anyone ?

the future of EVs is not visiting friends or relatives outside your range limit and asking them to pay for your journey home … that’s for sure.

thats early adopter stuff. It’s like all those lads in workplace car parks with their cars plugged in - how long do you think that’s going to last. It’s already being curtailed.

PV these days is irrelevant to EV driving cost calculations.

It was great during deemed export but that's gone now.

It's pays out ~20c a unit for export.

Night rate for EV can be as low as 5c, say 7c.

If you and your friends/relatives are that tight, can't you just revolute or transfer the cost of the charge, or reciprocate when they visit.

Nothing to do with being tight, quite the opposite - I just can’t imagine going to friends house for dinner or visit an older relative and asking them for some electricity to get back home - “I’ll Revolut you a few euro”. Maybe I’m just old, but it’s a ridiculous notion and more than a bit small minded imho. Embarrassing even?

its just a car - I don’t care about what propels it., but if it’s an inconvenience for my needs, then its an inconvenience full stop.

Just to add, if a friend or relative of mine had just driven a long distance to see me, I'd be insisting they plug in to my charger at my expense.

Two compelling arguments: money and the environment. Let's assume you don't give a toss about the environment for a second and we'll just focus on the money. Then your 700km trip half done on home electricity at 5c and the other half done on a public charge point at 40c, in an EV doing say 17kWh / 100km (almost all of them easily do that on a country roads trip, most are better) costs you vs a diesel doing 55MPG costing you €60 instead of €30. Do that trip a few times a week and it starts adding up quickly. 100 of those trips would save €3000.

And the savings from trips where you have charged at home is far higher again. 30k km at 5c vs 55MPG costs €300 in an EV and €3000 in a diesel

And there is cheaper maintenance, tax, insurance, lower depreciation, etc.