"average Dublin house prices should fall to ‘the €300,000 mark" according to Many Lou McD.

Lol.

so they buy them at 2019 prices, but then also have to top up the new mortgages for the people who are in negative equity?

"Hi Peter, Paul has your stuff"

Lets say we can get to 70K houses a year somehow.

How many years do you think we need to keep up that rate? What happens when we have "enough"? Retrain back into STEM?

Very true.

Populist posturing by SF to suggest a 300k average in Dublin for a 3 bed home.

I am still waiting for someone to explain how SF would achieve this.

It really shows how inexperienced SF actually are, when it comes to real world policy.

...its depends where you are in all of this, current homeowners are largely okay, with issues of course, but non home owners are in deep sh1t, which actually means, we re all in deep sh1t really, this is now unleashing highly complex social problems, which will eventually negatively effect us all. this will eventually cause a significant drop in birth rates, of course not the only reason for this, but, which of course exasperates aging population problems, i.e. we all end up in trouble. i would class this as catastrophic, as not only does it cause the above problems, but other highly complex social problems including rising mental health issues, addiction problems, then of course a rise in certain crimes, we ve created a beast!

no, these problems will persist for years/decades, way beyond the next government, who actually may not be sf at all, we could potentially be looking at another ffg lead one, and if thats the case, all bets are off, and we better prepare ourselves for anti parties, similar to other countries, then we ll know what problems are!

if its a sf lead government, that ll be more than likely be with ff, so relax, sf wont have it all their own way, majorities are over for now!

I agree on the TikTok. Majority of times when you question a Sinn Fein supporter about policies etc it's blank faces and they have no idea.

Sinn Fein are good at a 30 sec video telling you how terrible other parties are but never a 30 sec video on how they plan to differ. Maybe that what people want, no answers, just a video telling you how terrible everyone else is. The problem with that is when they are voted into government they have to come up with an actual plan. This is when it falls to pieces for Sinn Fein.

Wage disparity would require a whole thread on its own to be honest to give it justice, most just think this should be everyone gets a living wage. Which I don't think is the answer either

True it is very hard work. But that didn't stop people flocking to it before.

I think it would also help with making these roles attractive to look at career progression.

As it stands, it seems to me a tradesperson maxes out their earning potential early on. The only option from there is to either a) stay put or b) go into contracting, which can be lucrative these days but might not be stable and wouldn't be for everyone.

I think there should be clearer progression to more professional roles within the industry.

Aside from that, we really need to look at more modern techniques within construction in Ireland. I believe we lag far behind in terms of uptake on less hard labor intensive forms of prefab and part-prefab.

Not necessarily.

It will be up to FF to decide who forms the next govt.

FF can easily lock SF out and stick with the status quo.

SF need FF. So do FG.

Its all up to FF.

After 43 pages, can we all accept that MaryLou was talking complete cobblers and that after making such a bold statement, her target audience lapped it up and are too dense to admit, she wasn’t/isn’t able to provide any information on how it can be achieved?

This was a gift for the other parties, she put a statement figure on what houses should cost, and she/her party are going to get hammered with it come election time.

(1) Explain to me how you deliver training and career switching, with particular reference to the construction trades and the current blockages in accessing Phase 2 training.

(2) Explain to me how the state offers assurances to prospective tradespeople of the stability of labour demand within construction, without exposing the taxpayer to long-term liabilities?

A fine summary!

Again, I disagree strongly with you..

Though SF may win the most seats, they will not win the majority vote because a large proportion of property owning voters will not vote for policies which will significantly lower the value of their primary asset, recent young buyers amongst them and , raise their taxes.

There have been a few new parties over the years, none have gained traction to the extent you think new ones will. In the end, if voters are unsure, they vote for centrist parties, and so far SF are all fur coat and no knickers.

I think it is you I’ve asked previously, what detail of the SF policy promises most appeals to you? What is it that you think they are going to do that will achieve what you want them to, and how will they do it? I have confidence in the intelligence of the majority of voters, that they will ask the how, not just accept the unsupported promises of Mary Lou.

"but no sf supporters are not stupid, theyve simply had enough of ffg, and now they simply dont give a fcuk,"

I fine example of stupidity if you ask me.

That is hardly an endorsement of their policies. When election time arrives, SF are going to need more than just a “give us a try” motto.

I’ve posted about this a number of times. Prior to the last election P Doherty was in a live debate with other party candidates, after he laid out the SF policies, an economist on the panel said that they would cost in the region of 40bn to implement, he was asked where the money would come from. He fumbled, rambled, obfuscated, then admitted that taxes would have to be raised. Raising taxes is never a good platform to run on, especially now when the cost of living has gone up, add into that pushing anyone who has bought in the last few years into negative equity, that’s a vote killer. Look how the banks and developers were pariahs after the last housing crash, imagine the backlash if a political party promises to intentionally do the same.

We may be all missing the point that SF are in reality a single-issue party, and that issue is certainly not housing.

Housing is simply an issue of convenience to build a narrative for electoral support based on a so-called change agenda.

In this context its pretty irrelevant to be discussing their housing 'policy', because said policy is not designed to address housing at all.

Who are the 3-4 out of interest?