Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

"BTW, there's nothing in that article that stated there's a law that made anyone bury any body. There was nothing that said why a burial couldn't be delayed. There was nothing that said why they didn't conduce a port mortem."

The organization that largely does this work for Israel, Zaka, buries victims quickly according to Jewish law. Orthodox Jews are opposed to autopsies as well, I don't think ZAKA does them. So, there are religious laws (at least, as interpreted by Orthodox Jews) that prevent it.

But they're not all orthodox. I understand that maybe some are, but I think it's something like 1/8th of Israel is orthodox. And here's the thing, i don't think they even asked. If they asked and were refused that's one thing, but if they never bothered to ask, than that's bad.

And BTW, I'm not saying it was a conspiracy to hide stuff. I'm saying it was incompetence. There should have been someone who's job it was to make sure that they gathered as much as they could. maybe there is someone, but they weren't listened to. They should have done better at the time.

And it's not wrong for people to ask for this information. Or to say that they should have gathered it.

As I mentioned in a previous post, if you rounded up the rapists and presented them to the Israeli authorities, there's no evidence to confirm that they did it or to even confirm if a particular crime occurred. If I had 10 different people give me 10 wildly different figures about how often it happened, who would I believe? And the problem there is that one person is giving roughly accurate information, the others aren't. So then it's easy for a doubter to point at someone with a ridiculous figure and say that people are lying about it happening.

What, they have evidence for rapes that occurred in the first 3 days? That’s not my understanding of things?

How is the investigation into bennys corruption going? 😋

It was a war zone.

If you believed it happened what is the purpose in carrying on down this line? To what end?

ok.

i just think you are giving yourself a lot of grief about something which you believed happened in any event but sure fill your boots.

Netanyahu had a large part in not securing the border for 7 11 to happen but he is the exact right person to lead Israel now. He has no quams about killing civilians and the Israel public are supporting his brutal methods. I can't see him ever going to jail now for corruption.

"And as I said at the very beginning and in nearly every post since then, the point of mentioning this is that the Israeli authorities shot themselves in the foot when they didn't document this. They created a situation where people come in and say it never happened. They made a mistake. And they continue to do so when they react aggressively to people who say that they should have this evidence."

It's Israel: People would have come out and say this never happened. No matter what evidence had been presented. Presuming that type would listen to some higher legal authority is, in my view, naïve. We've seen it here, with at least one user saying it absolutely didn't happen, when I presented the article, they then decried it as 'Israeli government hasbara' or something like that, when we went on further they disappeared as the predominance, of at least testimony, is overwhelming.

As for what the Israeli government could and couldn't have done, that's a topic for another discussion. The Israeli government shared videos with Journalists who (like that nitwit from Wales) go on to deny what they saw.

Related, why didn't the UN at least acknowledge the possibility of the events, or even raise the issue until days after the events, after the video leakage and testimonies had come out. One other poster said, "What do you think about the South African accusations of rape.' Not in the motion they've proposed, I searched for the word 'rape', found zero hits. However, there was a tonne of "Israel said this! South Africa says that!" but it's just a proposal to the UN to do something so that standard is probably good enough.

If one is looking for Israel "shooting itself in the foot" (nice phrase given the current circumstances,) there's a rumour that Israel will hire Alan Dershowitz to defend it in the Hague against the accusations by South Africa.

The many ways this is a horrible idea are difficult to enumerate. There are better lawyers out there. Dershowitz's a busted flush, whose name is all over the recent Jeffrey Epstein revelations.

Gag. Dershowitz. W. T. A. F.

"Haaretz Today | Does It Have to Be Alan Dershowitz Defending Israel Against Charges of Genocide?"

(https://archive.is/CODid)

Yes of course. I was talking about the specific phrases that seem to frequently be applied to Jews on this thread. Blood thirsty , bloodlust, blood letting, baby killers, satanic etc etc. It reeks of blood libel nonsense. surely it's possible to criticize Israels actions without using anti semitic tropes? Seems for some people, it isn't.

Maybe they think Israel are doing something wrong and going to an authority on war crimes is the right thing to do?

Why do those on the pro israel side go after those countries critising them rather than argue the points of criticism?

Surely not! 😆

It will go nowhere. Even if they do find against Israel, the Israelis and Americans will ignore their decision.

To describe people who criticise the likes of Netanyahu and some of his politicians and ''religious'' friends, who quote ancient Bible passages to try to make slaughter acceptable, as antisemitic is nonsense.

That's what will probably happen but History will prove that these countries were in fact right to do so.