What is the legal definition of a TV

Jambonjunior · 05-01-2024 9:19pm #1

You don’t need a TV licence to watch television on your computer, phone or other device (for example, RTÉ Player or streaming services like Netflix).

I'm curious because it's not very clear.

If I have no aerial and watch streaming on a TV I need a licence.

If I stream to my laptop I don't.

What if I have a Google TV device and stream to a computer monitor? Is that a viewed as a TV?

"If you have other equipment capable of receiving TV signals (for example by using an aerial, satellite dish or cable), you must also have a TV licence."

"However, the computer, phone or other device must not be capable of receiving a TV signal by cable, satellite or aerial"

If I have a TV and no saorview box does that count as being capable of receiving a signal?

What if I have a monitor connected to a saoview box?

What if I have a projector that I use for DVDs?

Has any of this been tested in court?

If I need a licence if my laptop can get a signal, it would suggest that the ability to get the signal is what's important. So if I have an old TV in my house, that's not capable of getting a digital signal, do I still need a licence? Surely I need a TV and a digital box to get a signal?

SuperBowserWorld · 05-01-2024 9:29pm

It's anything that can receive and decode an over the air tv broadcast from rte AFAIK.

So, just use a large monitor and sell your TVs, & soarview boxes.

listermint · 05-01-2024 9:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058329832/what-is-the-legal-definition-of-a-tv

Currently yes soon perhaps not. The broadcasting charge is being put up the flat pole again. So you may not be able avoid long.

05-01-2024 9:44pm

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/18/section/140/enacted/en/html

“ television set ” means any electronic apparatus capable of receiving and exhibiting television broadcasting services broadcast for general reception (whether or not its use for that purpose is dependent on the use of anything else in conjunction with it) and any software or assembly comprising such apparatus and other apparatus

where:

“broadcasting service” means a service which comprises a compilation of programme material of any description and which is transmitted, relayed or distributed by means of an electronic communications network, directly or indirectly for simultaneous or near-simultaneous reception by the general public, whether that material is actually received or not, and where the programmes are provided in a pre-scheduled and linear order, but does not include:

(a) a service provided in a non-linear manner where each user of the service chooses a programme from a catalogue of programmes, or

(b) other audio and audiovisual services provided by way of the Internet;

05-01-2024 10:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121576796#Comment_121576796

I mean... https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20180859.html (2012) - and that's just the earliest I found in 5 minutes of searching. I'm pretty sure it was floated well before that.

I'm just saying, unless the act is actually going to the President, preparing for a broadcasting charge is pretty pointless

listermint · 05-01-2024 11:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121576937#Comment_121576937

That was pat rabbitte era. With the rte stuff last year the government have tabled it again look to 2023 for recent discussions

I mean...

05-01-2024 11:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121577151#Comment_121577151

It's been tabled multiple times over the years. I'll believe it when I see it

What is the legal definition of a TV

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