Record homeless Figures yet again , now at 13,500.

Don't like the truth so you resort to personal abuse. Mature.

We don't need to.

But we could solve it here this year, if they actually cared.

Those 1.5 million that live overseas you always trot out are over a period of what 90 years ? Are they all emigrants, did some of them come back ?

What's your stats.

Those 700,000 foreign born are almost all within the last 20 years into Ireland.

You can fly into Ireland from a certain ethnic group with a bunch of kids in toe and IMMEDIATELY get higher priority for housing than a homeless Irish man. Anybody who is familiar with North Inner City Dublin, as is the Master of the Rotunda Hospital, knows what's going on.

Well I think you are still considered homeless if you just have a hostel bed for example.

But on the wider issue, while having a roof over your head might make you not homeless right now, in the current rental environment, if you are renting, you don't know how long you will be in your current unit and, if you are evicted whether, you will be able to find another place in time. If you fail to do so, you will find yourself homeless and adding to the homeless statistics, even if you have a job and money to pay for rent.

So in order to tackle the homeless issue you need to look beyond purely the number sleeping on the streets right now. You need to increase the number of available accommodation units. You need to keep prices low and increase security of tenancy.

Fair enough, but do you see them winning any seats?

There is an historic abhorrence for renting. Much of the 19th and early 20th century there was an all out effort to stamp out predatory renting of property, break up the big estates and enable people to own their own house and work their own land.

They do that in the UK as well, It's called the "Bedroom Tax". If you have one bedroom more in your council flat, and one less is living in the apartment, you will feel the financial implications as well.

Is it just me or is are there suddenly a lot of anti-immigration alt-right accounts flowing into boards.ie...? They seem to be spreading like, eh, wildfire...

yeah which is why this thread is pointless, we already have immigration threads going on, which is the cause of all our problems apparently

yep, in the coming years, decades, if we think immigration is bad now, so many will be displaced by war, climate change, and so on. can't wait!

We ain't though complete fallacy as the last financial crash proved. Majority are living a decent lifestyle but its paycheck to paycheck.

Lifestyles downgrade at times also just to be aware of that. Easy work your ass off still have nothing and society points to the guy that's homeless and say aren't ya better off than him at least.

They should publish it on a county by county basis.

The vast majority are in Dublin - 70%+. Too many are afraid to move to a new area where there's less pressure on housing and this should be looked at especially if someone does not have strong connections to an area.

But if there was a full breakdown including those of ethnicity, you'd find the far right fools would have another argument in their amour.

as i said earlier, huge amount of our sh*tty jobs are being done by foreigners these days, so they'll be prominent on housing lists as it's impossible to live on the wages paid by these jobs

I see a lot of accounts posting against mass immigration and the problems it is causing.

It's hardly a surprise considering the last time it was polled over 70% of the country had that opinion, so that would seem normal to me.

I don't see many posters that say they are anti immigration or who have alt right views.

Paste in a few of these posts who are anti immigration and alt right and we can take a look.

Anti immigration seems to be someone who wants skilled people and doesn't want undocumented men, which is sensible and not anti immigration.

Alt right seems to be common sense these days.

Fire away and we can answer the question you asked.

13,000 homeless are on the social housing list.

People in their 30s and 40s living in their parents home because they can't afford to rent or buy are most likely not on social housing lists.

The state stopped supplying housing decades ago and instead allowed private developers to build and charge huge rents, that the state then pay for social housing tenants.

Selling off huge amounts of state owned housing over the decades has resulted in little social housing.

They state managed huge building projects in the 30s & 40s and again in the 50s & 60s. This needs to be done immediately.

Let the state house those who cannot house themselves, take those tenants out of private houses and allow those who should be able to house themselves into available private housing.

yeah i don't think we'll ever agree on this one, have a nice day.

The irony is the forever luxury free homes are mostly for the life long wasters. While the hard working poor get nothing... honestly, throw up a mobile home on your parents site if they have land down the country and are agreeable.. in Dublin, throw up a garden room if an option, much better when property has side access

You take a read back over my post now and point out where I said people couldn't afford to buy a house worth 250k.

If you read it again I said because of lack of housing.

definitely, definitely!