Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

In addition, they've shown no evidence of "widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election".

It really makes you understand just how venal and craven the Republicans are, that they can just hold their noses at blatant lies and mendacity.

Its the right wing way of arguing, as demstrated here. It's not verified data or facts that win, it's headlines and who shouts the loudest that does

In what the Independent has reported as a good news story, the Republican leadership, Speaker Johnson and Chuck Schumer have come to an funding agreement to the tune of 1.59 Trillion dollars. The Washington Post previously reported in Dec that the House Freedom Caucus leadership have signed on to the deal.

If the deal passes all hurdles in the Senate, it'll be a significant win for Speaker Johnson and maybe a sign that the grip of those persons of strange intent in congress has weakened in the recent past without much publicity. The deal might also mean that the influence of the last president over the HFC has been weakened by distancing between them. I don't know when the former president was last in Washington or in contact with anyone in the HFC.

Tomorrows hearing at the Federal Appeals Court of Trump's immunity from prosecution claim should be interesting, putting it mildly, as he says he will be attending it. “As President, I was protecting our Country, and doing a great job of doing so, just look around at the complete mess that Crooked Joe Biden has caused. The least I am entitled to is Presidential Immunity on Fake Biden Indictments!” Trump said in his post on Truth Social.

He's appealing the ruling of Judge Chutkan on Dec 01: “Nothing in the Constitution’s text or allocation of government powers requires exempting former Presidents from that solemn process. “And neither the People who adopted the Constitution nor those who have safeguarded it across generations have ever understood it to do so. “Defendant’s four-year service as Commander in Chief did not bestow on him the divine right of kings to evade the criminal accountability that governs his fellow citizens.”

If he loses and the USSC does not become involved, having declined to immediately become involved [with the Colorado name-on-ballot-paper issue before it] his trial on the 4 charges should start in March.

Hostages? Seems an odd line to take since Trump has previously expressed that he dislikes those that are taken hostage! So they are now basically calling those people losers

I understand, from the media giving Trump a platform to speak to his chosen audience, that he has declined to sign the Illinois ballot loyalty oath promising that he will not advocate the overthrown of the Government, despite having signed the oath on two previous occasions.

Alongside his comments about the US Civil War that a deal could have been negotiated between both sides to avoid it and Lincoln would not have been heard about, it's fairly obvious that he is seeking "atta-boy" calls from his fanbase while trying to keep them from wavering in loyalty to him and returning to the big R Party.

He may be getting desperate about the Insurrectionist tag on his collar, afraid that the judges will say NO to his pleas not to deprive him of getting his name on the ballot papers around the US.

How much does Chris Christie's withdrawal from the GOP nomination race assist Nikki Haley in the % race V Trump? Looking at an Irish TV current affairs show last night, it was suggested that it would help her, especially in her home state.

One item raised by the US pundit on the show [just as it ended] was Trump's recent [negotiation would have prevented the war] mention of the Civil War issue. The pundit said the war is still an issue to citizens of South Carolina and Trump probably used it to offset the support Haley would probably get from her state's fellow citizens.

I had looked at Trump and the Civil War mention online by online media outlets wondering where he was coming from on it. The media outlets were giving him an F on the history knowledge score but maybe there is a canny backroom person in his campaign who knows what matters to voters in some states, despite what some online media would have the public think.

it seems Republican voters in some states are still living in the 19th century in their minds...which must account for the profusion of confederate battle flags at Trump rallies.

*Stollen

Trump excels in telling porkies to the public, it's like X amount of them suffer from Stockholm-syndrome. I'm in Dublin having a natter with a barber over topics as one does and the subject changes to him. She say's her mother, a Dub living in Dublin [neither a US citizen, nor voter] swears by Trump, believes everything he says is truthful.

If he does somehow manage to get the nomination election day will be messy to say the least. The seeds of distrust have been down for years and some MAGA types will be looking for anything they decide themselves to be cheating.

In terms of raw numbers though, I still can’t see him getting elected. While he’s a great motivator for his republican base, he’s also a great motivator for dem voters to get out and ensure he doesn’t win, like 4 years ago.

I hope it doesn’t come to that though, even him being the candidate could do untold damage to the American political system.