General Star Trek thread

Looks great, taking a lot of cues from Picard and a few other shows tho

I like the intro, but could have done with a more sweeping and bombastic music score. A little too soft for the gravity of the scenes it was showing us.

That's excellent.

Real (intentional) Westworld vibe (And The Expanse as mentioned above of course)

Could be not far off the real 2024 the way things are going.

Possible Picard film in the works. Just a script at the moment.

Traditionally, what makes Patrick "excited" in context of Star Trek, hasn't translated very well to the screen (First Contact aside.) Picard is a legendary, treasured character within Star Trek, but we've seen his finale, twice now, nobody wants more of him.

Currently reading Patrick Stewart's memoir book "Making it so", I say reading, I'm actually listening to Patrick read the audiobook. I'm just getting to the bit where Patrick gets the JLP role. Surprised there were two figures who almost lost him the role. Gene and Ian.

I’d encourage giving Picard S3 another shot now that the whole season is available. It was a slogg mid-season, but I think they stuck the landing with the end of the season in a way I haven’t seen since Lower Decks S1 or the TNG era of shows. What ever input Steward had on S1 & S2 appears to have been removed/ignored in S3 with a lot of TNG elements returning. S2 itself appears to have been completely ignored / forgotten.

As for a Picard movie? No, that’s really pushing it. I’m surprised we even got 3 seasons out of Steward. Given, a movie is usually just the length of just 2-3 TV episodes, but we don’t even need to continue Picard’s story. How about they cover something else? Some kind of adventure with Capt. Seven and Jack Crusher? (while Raffi fecks off off-screen for reasons we don’t care about) Maybe even something at DS9? Would love to see a movie treatment of the station.

Speak for yourself.

That intro does nothing for me. Terrible music very Discovery like and the CGI looks crap. Would I watch a show about Sisko the Emissary do. Must definitely.

As for the Picard movie. That story has being out for a while. I think he is just too old now. He was to old at the beginning of Picard and is most definitely too old for a movie now.

A series on a young Picard would be much better. That I would watch if done right with a good actor as a young Picard.

Although you might not have liked Picard S3, and that’s a perfectly fair assessment too (especially compared to some of the best Trek we’ve gotten), by “sticking the landing” I’m referring to them actually setting up stakes, and pay-offs for nearly everything they introduced. The “Death Star” Borg cube may have been a but cliche, but the entire series arc was actually written to build up to that moment. That’s the type of writing discipline we not seen at all in Discovery or in Picard S1&2.

Picard S3 even has a underwritten theme of family and “passing the torch” between generations as we see with Picard and Jack. Even going so far as having Jack become “Son of Locutus”. The hadn’t managed a theme like that for ages.

Was is perfect Trek? No, there were holes. But was it good Trek? I think it was, and it’s the first new Trek in a very long while that I’ve actually rewatched.

What about the entire series was building up to the finale ?

The entire series was an inconsequential ship in a nebula fighting changelings (who themselves are revealed through mystery with their weird outfits)

All we actually got to build up to the Borg was a few visions from Jack (who is a terrible creation who would be ripped to shreds if he was on another show) and one screen with the changeling skull communicator that is just never explained as a piece of tech.

It's exactly like Discovery season 2 where they build up this interesting story and mystery only to reveal it as a giant load of nothing and just a device to fool the audience.

I gleaned an insight from Patrick Stewart's memoir (I just finished it) and I hope I'm not spoiling any details for anyone.

One of the things that stuck in my craw was how OLD he seemed. His voice in particular was so shaky and it really undercut whatever authority he was supposed to have.

P-Stew said in the book that it was a conscious decision to use his "real(old)" voice for dialogue to give things a different flavour, and it has made me reconsider some of those scenes.

("Picard" is still shite though)