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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    The tariffs are designed to protect EU employment so yeah, it's exactly the intended consequence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭innrain


    Currently driving a rental Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross PHEV LHD. I had to refuel and couldn't believe that I was only able to squeeze 35l into the tank, giving me a range of 390 km. All my EVs have similar or better range.

    I'll try to charge but they supplied only granny cable and CHAdeMO are very hard to find around here.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Garda EV moped. BMW CE04



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    And today on twitter.....


    EV's are useless because you'll be left stranded someday.

    The batteries are 14k to be replaced.

    I heard it was 10k.

    (Guy who said it was 14k)...it's actually double that.


    The media have a lot of untruths to start setting right.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,404 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Have followed the UK's original YouTube Leaf guy, Ian Sampson for years, posts less often now. Big issue with one of his Env 200s.

    Some guff in the comments.




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,274 ✭✭✭✭silverharp



    good to see competition in tech, dont know anything about it, if its niche or not



    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,934 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Hopefully the Twitter comments aren't representitive of the overall population and are disproportionately from the luddites as you would expect on Twitter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭cannco253




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    They're supposed to launch in the UK this year. I don't know if they will include Ireland.



  • Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭harmless


    Why is he complaining? It's a newish high tech vehicle. £10,000 to replace an important component is about what you would expect.



  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭daarmcd


    Should this be a mandatory test for all EV's.

    BYD Double Sided Crash Test on the BYD Seal, after the test they remove battery and then put battery in another car





  • Registered Users Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭sk8board



    about what you’d expect as an EV owner for a battery pack perhaps, but not for anyone else - or not for any component in a 2nd hand Leaf sized car anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭zg3409


    He is saying that's not an option. Repair may be 2000 or 3000 so viable and practical. However the car may be off the road for weeks or months while they diagnose the issue, wait for a time slot at specialist, remove pack, identify cells need swapping, take apart pack, swap cells, refit and then charge and test drive a few times to recalibrate battery and confirm it's really fixed.

    It may be possible to buy a used pack for slightly more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    Downtime to diagnose and repair an ev battery problem is a key issue at present and no one wants to be without their car for extended period. Hopefully this problem will reduce as expertise becomes more available.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,151 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Just a thought I had earlier today

    New Tesla Models X and S in the states have "standard range" versions that use the same battery as the longer range versions but with software locking the batteries to a smaller capacity

    Does this mean that at fast chargers the charging speeds will remain higher than normal as battery capacity nears 100%?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭cannco253


    https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/7/24028300/verge-electric-motorcylce-ts-ultra-price-photo-ces

    The TS looks like nothing else on the road because it is like nothing else on the road. It’s electric, for starters, making it still a rare thing in the world of motorcycles, but its performance is even more radical. It has a whopping 201 horsepower and 885 pound-feet of torque, almost twice as much as a Corvette E-Ray

    “We came to a conclusion that we would need to move the motor outside of the main chassis, out of the body of the motorcycle,” he said. So they decided to try something different: putting the motor inside the rear wheel. 

    It’s a hubless ring design, which means you can put your hand right through the center of the wheel. This creates a radical look and while it does have some drawbacks, namely adding a lot of weight hanging off the rear suspension, Lehtimäki said the practical benefits of that battery placement more than outweigh it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭wassie


    Thats savage alright. The hubless ring would seem to make cleaning the rear wheel much easier. Its low centre of gravity also would also be a positive for the handling.

    But as with most electric motorcycles, you really need 2 power figures. The first being the absolute peak that can be achieved for brief periods, with the second being the “continuous” maximum that can be sustained indefinitely without overheating the motor. A quick look on their website I wasn't able to find that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭innrain


    My 11 days stint with the Eclipse ended and I'm writing down my thoughts maybe will help/inform someone in making a decision when pondering EV/PHEV.

    Overall the car was a bit annoying with a clutter of buttons and beeping software. Sometimes the beeps would be followed by a message on the display but most of the times I had no clue what those beeps meant. The good bit of having an electric motor was that it had less lag when accelerating from stand still compared to other ICEs I drove. At speeds over 120 km/h the engine was roaring. On the motorway the"power meter", left side in the picture below, was always above 75 kW and I could feel the engine struggling hard.

    I managed to find a CHAdeMO charger which are very rare, those I knew from previous years got replaced with CCS hubs. When connected the charger said the battery is at 26% although the car displayed no range in the electric. It charged to only 80% and estimated a range of 30ish kms. Based on this I decided it is an absolute waste of time to keep charging. Maybe if the rental company would have provided Type2 cable I would have charged more often. I found AC chargers everywhere I parked, more on this later. I found that I could use the engine to charge the battery and I did it few times but never got to 100% or above 35km range. I drove about 1000 km and had to refuel 3 times a total of about 90l of petrol. Going to return the car, the petrol range display jumped from 44km to ---km, 10km before the destination. Not fun. Consumption was unbelievable high. 9l/100m +21 kWh/100km, telling me I drove 36% on electric when in fact I charged 35km out of 1000km. Same old tricks.

    For me, driving EVs for the last 5 years, this PHEV was definitely a step back from all points of view. Power, comfort, software. I know I'm subjective, but it is hard not to be. Last night driving home I couldn't marvel how nice and quiet the drive in the EV is.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    there's an attendant at the pumps in cappoquin co waterford... with the pumps on the pavement on the main street of the town. proper old skool.

    does a great trade.

    🌞 7.79kWp PV System. Comprised of 4.92kWp Tilting Ground Mount + 2.87kWp @ 27°, azimuth 180°, West Waterford 🌞



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    Has anyone else heard anything about GoPlugable? They were on Matt Cooper I think Friday last.

    They describe it as a sort of Air B&B for your home charger.

    You register and you can let others use your charger for a fee.

    The payment is handled through the company so nothing between the owner and user.

    Sounds like a good idea in theory for people without access to their own charger.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭innrain


    A new player is coming in town. Planning permission lodged with SDDC. The address is for McDonald's carpark

    The charger mentioned is the BYD 160kW which it seems to have battery back-up. (Article from 2021)




  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    They have one other installation "on the island" in Strabane NI, at a McDonalds also. The reviews on Plugshare aren't great unfortunately, but it's good to see new operators coming in.




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    What are you implying here? Hard to know by the way you asked.

    Is it that you believe that this is BYD indicating to customers that a battery can be taken out of a crashed vehicle and moved into a new/second-hand chassis as a matter of course.... then no.

    But if it's a battery validation step as part of a demonstration of the resilience of their vehicles and also their battery module and is completely unrelated to how BYD will operate their customer crash-repairs, then it's a valid test and should be welcomed to increase trust in EV's overall.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,514 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    No, why would you think it should be?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Nice review, yep they're a complete waste of time. I had a phev myself and wouldn't recommend them at all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,073 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    If something happens to that person's car 9r they fall on your property then they'll claim off your insurance and you'll be in a right pickle. Stay away unless you know them, what you'd make wouldn't be worth it for me to take on that risk.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭innrain


    Came across this car park with an interesting PV installation

    getting closer I noticed each structure has 2 EV chargers.

    Are we going to see something similar at Cliffs of Moher anytime soon? Or it is just a sore thumb like the charger in Hollywood, WW?



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