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It could hold but like bakmuth there is no guarantee that they won't keep grinding away at it ,it will be a kick in the teeth if and when it falls in reality, it would mean after the big summer offensive they actually lost more territory than they liberated,
But it seems they are more willing to fall back rather than risk thousand for a small town /city ,it's probably one the the main reasons they are now building multiple layers of defences more or less mirroring what the Russians are doing over the last year
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I'm not sure where your getting that from,the majority of military experts gave Ukraine little or no hope of stopping the Russian military rolling across the border,the majority ordinary Joe's said the exact same thing, there was no advanced planning from the US or NATO there was no plan to lure the Russians in and trap them we sat here from the night of the invasion and watched Russian military convoys roll practically to Kiev and then sit there doing nothing and going nowhere and there wasn't any real effective attacks on the Russian military convoys,
They were given the equipment and comprehensive plan for the summer offensive and push the Russians out of Kherson and elsewhere but they chose not to listen to the Americans and decided to go with their own plans which didn't involve smashing through the Russian lines , because they didn't want to risk and equipment,but they will risk thousands trying to hold a bakmuth,now were possibly looking at several years of trench warfare, which i highly doubt was part of anyone's plans ,
With seeds of division been sown in between the politicians and military, I still believe they messed up last year when they had the Russians on the run after Kharkiv and parts of Kherson,but for some reason they chose to stop and re-evaluate which then gave the Russians 6/7 Months to build multiple layers of defences and fortifications, all the while slowly pushing back against the Ukrainians ...
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More on the Ukrainian Mig 29 pilot killed over the weekend "Blue Helmet" Vladyslav Zalistovsky(23)was known for his social media accounts from twitter, Instagram and tiktok , all the while flying regular combat sorties.
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I seen a graph posted yesterday suggesting Russia is now shooting 10,000 rounds of artillery while Ukraine is shooting 2000 shells per day, which some how gives Russia the advantage in artillery again,all the while it was been claimed that they were loosing thousands of guns and couldn't possibly replace, repair or have the ammunition to keep this up ,
They still seem to have access to a lot of artillery and shells, wether it be Iranian, north Korea or India or still producing enough to keep their artillery going around the clock
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But they will never have air superiority,so they have choices to make,come out and fight and try push the Russians back or sit in trenches and hope they keep getting artillery shells in large numbers to keep the Russians in there trenches...
There is only one way they can beat the Russians, sitting back isn't one of those options guaranteeing any victory
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Because the Ukrainian leadership decided against going with the plans and strategies put forward by the US and NATO and do there own thing which they put months of planning and intelligence gathering to come up with a plan that would actually get them territory back instead of losing it ,
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The big offensive failed in less than 5 days ,and as much as your excuses are trying to make it sound like oh this is what happened,
The Americans came out and said they disregarded the Plans and strategies to give the the best chance of winning,
All these Months laters Lads this is what happened no .
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Fantastic reply.
Fortunately for me the posts I'm making reference several credentialed individuals. Namely Valery Zalushny. Heard of him?
If you're bothered to read the article i can tell you how to circumvent the paywall. I suspect you won't though. So here's a little quote from the article and some from the man himself:
“If you look at nato’s text books and at the maths which we did, four months should have been enough time for us to have reached Crimea, to have fought in Crimea, to return from Crimea and to have gone back in and out again,” General Zaluzhny says sardonically. Instead he watched his troops get stuck in minefields on the approaches to Bakhmut in the east, his Western-supplied equipment getting pummelled by Russian artillery and drones. The same story unfolded on the offensive’s main thrust in the south.
At which point he:
the general told his staff to dig out a book he once saw as a student. Its title was “Breaching Fortified Defence Lines”. It was published in 1941 by a Soviet major-general, P.S. Smirnov, who analysed the battles of the first world war. “And before I got even halfway through it, I realised that is exactly where we are because just like then, the level of our technological development today has put both us and our enemies in a stupor.”
I also pull some of the opinions I post from Anders Puck Nielsen.
It's an older video which describes exactly what went on between Ukraines initial Manoeuvre phase and switch to attrition. As posted by this credentialed individual:
So..... We have the Commander in chief of the UAF and a military analyst with years worth of credentials making the points about what happened in the offensive(switching from NATO manoeuvre to attrition) that I'm referencing.
Against........ you?
I literally can't wait to see your credentials. Or perhaps an admission that you're talking absolute shite as per usual. I suspect I'll get neither but I'm not the miserable sort. I like to remain hopeful! ☺️
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