Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

Dalglish has some very interesting mates from Maghull

Remember Nidges wedding when they all danced up the aisle. That was gangster as ****. Roo Redmond did something like that at Warren Dumbbells wedding

Not sure how you think Kin has got it so wrong, Season 2 seemed to be very well received.

And Spin-offs are usually rubbish. Great shows are best left the way they finished.

Jimmy White and Gary Mason attended Joey Pyle's funeral. Theres a part in one of White’s autobiographies where an unnamed gangster gets back the handbag of his mum who had been mugged. White is then meant to repay the favour by visiting a ‘friend’ who turns out to be Reggie Kray. However White is heavily on the lemonades at the time and keeps missing meets to be driven to the relevant prison. Pyle is not now as well remembered as others of his era but was a very significant organised criminal in London from the 1960s to 1990s. Frank Warren who in 2020 claimed to not have been aware of allegations against Daniel Kinahan owned the London Arena for first 8-10 years of its life. It was opened in late 1980s and closed and demolished c2005. The crime journalist Michael Gillard has written that 'The north London crime family had an interest in the London Arena.' Gillard (referring to the Adams family) does not say when this interest was and as stated Warren was not involved for the last ten or so years before the Arena was demolished. Warren denies any links with crime and is very litigious. He is from Islington his late uncle Bob Warren, was extremely well known in London criminal circles from late 1950s, and is mentioned on the bugging that led to Terry Adams 2007 conviction. Adams was recorded saying:

' Me and Bobby Warren was in a car once right Dan. There was a geezer that was lying to us Dan, right, on my baby’s life. Dan, I’ve got something about me when things happen. When I hit someone I do them damage. And I went to the geezer. Stealing 100 grand it was Dan, or eighty grand, and I went ‘crack.’ On my baby’s life Dan, his kneecap come right out there.'

Warren has told interviewers:

' I thought it was to the Adams brothers, I say, the north London crime family, that people liked to link him."No," says Warren, raising his eyebrows, "that came afterwards. When I started out in boxing, they were kids. How am I going to be running about with kids younger than me? It just doesn't work out. Do I know them? Yeah, of course I know them. They come from Islington. I knew their dad very well. I haven't seen them for years, but I knew them. I know lots of people.'

Warren is 70. The three best known Adams brothers- are Terry Adams (who is 69), Patsy Adams (who is 67) and Tommy Adams (who is 65). The less well known Danny Adams is about 60 and the youngest Mickey (who is 57) might have qualified as 'kids' in 1980 when the then 28 year old Warren promoted his first licensed fight. There was a British TV programme on Adams in late 1990s presented by Martin Short for ITV. Short found details at UK company house of a company that Warren and, from memory, Tommy Adams were directors of. Warren denied any knowledge of this. The recording was on YouTube for some years and was taken down 6-8 years ago.

No loss.

100% also why gerrard didn’t move to Chelsea in 04/05 I think it was, that was down to Bromley

There have been a lot of drug finds linked, I wonder are they linked?

His eye area is a bit strange.

Russians have a massive presence in liverpool at the moment. Id be surprised if they arent leaning on the Gerards.

Tony Tucker and Nigel Benn were in afaik Royal Fusiliers together. Benn after 5/6 years when he went back to civvy life got into boxing- Tucker got into crime. They kept in touch for a while. Benn much enjoyed himself until finding god about 15-20 years ago. So clubbing with brash guys who controlled the doors at night clubs may have suited. Benn is normally described as coming from a 'tough' East End of London family- now what that exactly means.......

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