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Why does Ireland have so FEW Bank Holidays?

  • 26-08-2010 12:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭


    I was looking through my diary and came across a page listing all the bank holidays including other country's. I was amazed that Ireland was one of about 2 or 3 country's that gave the least amount of bank holidays.

    For example -

    Australia - 22

    Austria - 23

    Canada - 27

    Denmark - 15

    France - 15

    Ireland - 11

    Norwary - 16

    Italy - 12

    Poland - 12

    UK - 16

    Spain - 35 !!!

    I had previously thought the Ireland were generous with Bank Holidays but not now. Why do other countries give so many holidays???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Labour party were promising to give another two if elected.
    Could have been all talk, who knows

    February 1st, St Brigids Day was pencilled in for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    hblock21 wrote: »
    I was looking through my diary and came across a page listing all the bank holidays including other country's. I was amazed that Ireland was one of about 2 or 3 country's that gave the least amount of bank holidays.

    For example -

    Australia - 22

    Austria - 23

    Canada - 27

    Denmark - 15

    France - 15

    Ireland - 11

    Norwary - 16

    Italy - 12

    Poland - 12

    UK - 16

    Spain - 35 !!!

    I had previously thought the Ireland were generous with Bank Holidays but not now. Why do other countries give so many holidays???



    Where are they getting 16 for the UK, I can only count 8


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Wikipedia says 8 also, and 9 for Ireland.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holiday#Current_practice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Raceweek in Galway could be counted for some staff ;)
    Lots get halfdays, it's traditional


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    Workers here get a lot of annual leave.

    Statutory annual leave entitlement in the US / canada can be non-existent. Maybe 10 days, maybe fewer, and none in your first year of employment.
    Even sick days can come out of your AL entitlement.

    I get 22 days AL + Flexi days.
    My manager gets about 27 days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭daigo75


    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    Workers here get a lot of annual leave.

    Statutory annual leave entitlement in the US / canada can be non-existent. Maybe 10 days, maybe fewer, and none in your first year of employment.
    Even sick days can come out of your AL entitlement.

    I get 22 days AL + Flexi days.
    My manager gets about 27 days.

    It's true that US and Canada offer worse conditions, but I know of countries where people have 30 or more days of annual leave (my father used to take the whole month of August off, plus two or three weeks at Christmas).

    I forgot: if you actually manage to take so much leave or not, it's another story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    hblock21 wrote: »
    I was looking through my diary and came across a page listing all the bank holidays including other country's. I was amazed that Ireland was one of about 2 or 3 country's that gave the least amount of bank holidays.

    For example -

    Australia - 22

    Austria - 23

    Canada - 27

    Denmark - 15

    France - 15

    Ireland - 11

    Norwary - 16

    Italy - 12

    Poland - 12

    UK - 16

    Spain - 35 !!!

    I had previously thought the Ireland were generous with Bank Holidays but not now. Why do other countries give so many holidays???

    does this mean days on which the bank is closed or does this mean days on which everyone gets a day off ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    You're probably getting confused between public holidays and bank holidays.

    Public holidays are national days off. Bank holidays are weekdays that the banks are closed, but everyone else has to work. Good Friday is an example of a bank holiday.

    No country gives more than 16 public holidays. Personally I think there should be at least one per month. So add one more day each in February, July, September and November and we'll be laughing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭BroomBurner


    In many countries in Europe, if a public holiday falls on a Saturday/Sunday, they don't give the following Monday off. For example, this year Christmas will fall on a Saturday. In Ireland, this means most places will close on the following Monday and (possibly) Tuesday. However, for European countries, places will be open Friday, then again on Monday.

    It usually balances out at around 10-12 days a year, sometimes less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    In all fairness the banks don't deserve any holidays!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,033 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    Workers here get a lot of annual leave.

    Statutory annual leave entitlement in the US / canada can be non-existent. Maybe 10 days, maybe fewer, and none in your first year of employment.
    Even sick days can come out of your AL entitlement.

    I get 22 days AL + Flexi days.
    My manager gets about 27 days.

    I was going to say what you did about needing to factor in minimum annual leave entitlements.

    But it is worth noting that Ireland has ZERO minimum sick leave days: most companies I've worked for have said that sick leaves means that if you are sick you are allowed to not come to work and they won't consider you to have abandoned the employment unless you didn't ring in. But only one has been willing to pay me for days on which this has happened. (It's a good incentive to say healthy!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Thread bump. 14 years later and we have an extra public holiday in Feb and still the lowest number of public holidays in the EU at 10, since the UK's exit. The only countries with less holidays are UK, USA, Canada, Mexico Brazil and Ecuador. Bizarley for a constitutionAl Republic we've no day recognising the constitution or foundation of the Republic, surely worth commemorating even if the Republic isn't yet territorialy complete. We could also make good Friday a holiday, an extra day between Christmas and New year's. Surely we should be aiming for 15, among the highest in europe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭JeffKenna




  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,131 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Welcome back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Isn't it the case that on the continent, if a public holiday falls on a weekend that you won't get the day off? So in effect, you need to account for the likelihood that 2/7 holidays a year will not result in a day off when making comparisons to the continent?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Australia does not have 22. It varies slightly between states but NSW has 11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,792 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Yes, I work in the netherlands.

    Some of the public holidays are guaranteed to fall on the weekend as well such as Easter sunday and whit monday. I think we have 10 public holidays, but 2 fall on a Sunday every year and liberation day is only a free day every five years.

    This year only 6 of the holidays fall during the week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭cgcsb




  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭GBXI


    Where is the stat to back up this claim? Ireland definitely is not one of the lowest in the EU. We have 10 public holidays and as has been said, unlike many EU countries we still get the day off work should the holiday fall on the weekend. Not the case in NL or DE, for example. DE for example has different holidays for different states.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭maneno


    In all the places I have worked, Good Friday is considered a bank holiday



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Fourteen years and not a whisper for a change would suggest that the voters are just not interested....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,310 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That 35 for Spain figure is assuming that everyone gets every regions individual holidays. They don't. ~12 is the norm there and they can lose days to weekends like mentioned as affecting various countries.

    I could see a July BH to give a run of one a month in the summer months being an obvious one to add here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    Belgium have 10 and like other European Countries if any of those fall on a weekend tough - there are 9 actual Bank Holidays this year.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    It is not so easy to figure it out in Switzerland, there is one national holiday - the 1st of August, which is in honour of the founding of the state. Then each Kanton (like a county in Ireland/UK) is entitled to have 8 public holidays at the regional level. But then there are also certain religious holidays that are also allowed by Kanton depending if is a Catholic or Protestant Kanton. Generally speaking Catholic Kantons have more holidays than Protestant ones, so perhaps about 10 to 12 days per year. And like most of Europe if a holiday falls at the weekend you get nothing for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,033 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    In Ireland, Good Friday is a Bank Holiday. That just means that the banks are closed.

    But it is not a public holiday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭maneno


    What I meant to say is that I have never had to go to work on that day in all places I have worked



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