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I can see it launching as at best as a competent sea of thieves clone that then gets forgotten not being able to compete with all the content sea of thieves has.
Saying that, Ubisoft are the kings of turning around badly performing multiplayer games and making them a phenomenon.
A lot of their most successful GaaS games had awful launches and would have been abandoned by other Devs.
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I'm the same but subnautica showed how you could make it work without being obnoxious about it (and to a lesser extent dragon quest builders). Hoping this is more in line with subnautica than the usual loot based survival games.
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The absolute worst type of loot quests are the ones that's basically collect a load of junk so you can hold enough ammo and do enough damage that the game goes from frustrating to fun. My friend tells me (second hand info, I admit, don't shoot me) Days Gone is the worst for this were there's a sweet spot well over 20 hours into the game when you have enough upgrades that the game becomes fun and then a few hours later becomes boring because you are OP.
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The problem is that it's a Skinner box mechanics and game publishers have realised that a Skinner box mechanics is more profitable and addictive to certain people than actual good gameplay.
I mean we have all ended up in that Skinner box loop where 10 hours of grinding missions or trophy's etc. you realise you weren't even enjoying the game.
And you keep going anyway due to sink cost fallacy.
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In game design you have to have down time between the action. It's one of the reasons Doom Eternal isn't quite gelling with me as it's just too much constant action. A stealth section interruption can work really well i it's fun but also built into the actual gameplay systems and not tacked on as an after thought and feels like a bad rough draft of a totally different game.
I kind of feel modern games have moved on from the poor implementation in the PS2 era. And there's examples of where this can work brilliantly. The Last of Us and the modern Wolfenstein games have brilliant stealth that compliments the combat. Arkham games have mediocre combat (I'll die on this hill) but the games area brilliantly paced with different gameplay types that aren't jarring with the stealth sections being the highlights.
And let's not forget the best of them all, metal gear revengeance where the stealth really compliments the character action shenanigans and there's great synergy between them.
We are all so focused on the awful implementations of stealth features that we forget that's there's been a lot of games that have perfect synergy between the stealth and their other mechanics. It's kind of a testament to how well it's implemented in these games that we don't lump them in with Lords of Shadows 2 and Shadow of Rome.
But yes, I'd kill for another Dishonored game or Arkane to take on the Thief franchise.
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