Is there life after death or maybe life on other planets?

No and 100% Yes.

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When it has been worked out in the future, time travellers will come back to tell whoever is alive. But not enough of the future has happened yet for time travel backwards to be possible. And of course that rules out time travel forwards.

OK, any time is more than welcome to post 2 minutes before this post...

Why do you assume you are at the forefront of time and not living something which has already been lived before?

Depends on what you "count" as evidence.

If you "count" nonsense as evidence then yes there is evidence. Even better if it is self aware philosophical nonsense.

No god or gods. They're a human invention to explain things we didn't know about, and we've created tens of thousands of them throughout various cultures over the last 250,000 years. So no, there's no god/gods.

Life on other planets? Given the scale of the universe and the fact that we're here, you'd have to think so, but whether it's intelligent is another question. Unless we learn to fly thousands of times the speed of light or if aliens visit us, we'll likely never know.

I reckon too bio-chemistry wise, we're not that special, and given the diversity of life on Earth in inhospitable parts, I would not be surprised in the next 200 years if we discovered definitive evidence of life in other parts of our solar system. And if that were the case, I would imagine that the galaxy and wider universe would be teeming.

Though I suspect our civilisation will be more mechanical than biological when we do encounter alien life.

One thing folks always forget about when wondering if there is life out there is the problem of time.

It would be almost impossible for there not to have been something else out there at some point given the expanse of the universe - but that doesn't mean we'll all exist within the same timeframe to actually meet or witness evidence of each other's existence.

We could all miss each other by billions of years.

Theres no evidence to suggest that there is Life after death or Life on other Planets.

However, on the balance of probabilities consider this:

There is estimated to be 100 billion (yes billion) stars in our own Galaxy the milkyway. These stars have their own solar system. (other stars and rocks and planets and moons) say that only 1% of these stars have a planet capable of containing life thats 10million in our galaxy. Say then that only 1% of these 10million had some form of life, thats only 1% of 1% of the planets is 1 hundred thousand.

Now, there is estimated to be 2 Trillion Galaxys in the Universe. If you said that 100,000 x 2 trillion planets could house some form of life thats 2 x 17 zeros worth of planets with life on them.

The life after death thing, well, that doesnt have anywhere near the level of probability associated with it as the above. I think you return to the planet in the form of ashes and dust and thats it.

1. Who knows

2. Who knows

As for reading Richard Dawkins, he's an extreme atheist with a certain viewpoint. Atheists love him, he's their God.

You cannot realistically come to a shared understanding of reality in a meaningful way without some sort of material proof.

Greek philosophical ideas are great to debate and gain deeper understanding of the mind, but ultimately if you want to come to actual conclusions that cross boarders / nationality / peoples, they need to be based in physical reality.

Everything else is just personal belief which is massively subjective.

'You cannot realistically come to a shared understanding of reality in a meaningful way without some sort of material proof.'

I don't think you're digging deep enough here.

You assume materialism is the fundamental bottom line of reality (which it is for you and other Irish atheists), but must know that most societies past and even present have had a spiritual basis/shared understanding. Therefore how is it unrealistic to have a non-material basis for a society? It isn't.

To take it a level deeper, in evolutionary biology - Darwin and after - the strongest objective material evidence that a society has gone fundamentally wrong is below replacement fertility: a society that is literally dying out. (Over the cycle of a few generations, not observably before our eyes.)

Now this dysfunction might be genetic or it might be due to the society's belief system or some combination but consider that in the Western world - Mormons, Muslims and a few other devout religious groups are the only exceptions to this below-replacement fertility.

Now if you understand biology you will understand that that is, like I said, objective material evidence of a society's self-destruction. How do you account for this?

sometning mildly interesting I thought was when someone asked my great grandparents names. Not a clue of even 1.

it’s only takes 3 generations to be fully forgotten as such. Put in perspective how important you are.

Are you saying atheist believe that Richard Dawkins doesn't exist?

Life on other planets, almost certainly yes, and loads of it. Just too vast and plentiful of energy sources and planets for there not to. Will we ever make contact? Probably not, lifespans too short to even scratch the surface of intergalactic travel.

Life after death? Almost certainly no. We are organic matter, nothing more.

The Fermi paradox tries to explain life on other planets.

Fermi got the idea from a chap on Neptune.

Life after death? More than likely no.

Life on other planets? More than likely yes...

...but, it may not be life as we understand it and there's almost certainly nothing in our galaxy in immediate terms anyway. But considering there are an incredible number of planets and solar systems out there, the odds that some kind of life exists elsewhere is quite high, even if it's just a single cell organism.

I think when mankind does eventually come across a lifeform on another planet, an awful lot of people are going to be mightily underwhelmed.

Yes and yes. But the first yes must be understood as most of your atoms will go on living, but you as a person, certainly not. Notions like eternal life or soul are ridiculous and created just because humans can't accept that the death is their end.

Life after death. Yes. I like to think so.

Other life forms on other planets. Yes aswell. There has to be.

Never mind meeting them, it is impossible to communicate with them. If a life form which existed five million years ago on a planet ten million light years away had sent out a signal, what would happen if we picked it up today? They could be extinct for millions of years, and our reply would not get back there for ten million years.

And those distances are the equivalent of going to the next room in a house, compared to the outer reaches which would be like going to Australia.

Err, I dont think 1% of 100 Billion is 10 million!