Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

RTE news website states that according to Minister of Justice, for 2023, 76% of asylum applicants up to September last year did not register their application at an airport or port. But did so at the International Protection Office.

6821 Vs 2056

Assuming you cannot just walk thru an airport or port does that mean that 6821 applicants came thru the North or a non controlled port??

They may also have arrived by plane as a tourist.

My understanding is that if you're coming from Georgia, Algeria, Somalia etc then you need a visa to enter as a tourist??

Appears to me we haven't a clue how the majority are entering the country.

Ukrainian people are coming under non stop attack from the Irish far right on social media, accused of being 'chancers' and 'con artists' and being here purely as economic migrants.

Who are "The hope and courage collective"

Presumably another government funded mouthpiece coining it on the back of this.

I think a big problem we have is journalism and the media. Just listening to Kevin Doyle now on tv3 he is tiptoeing around the issue very carefully and offering up soft balls to the NGO woman beside him. That's because the next job for a journalist might be to work in an NGO. Or as a government advisor. They are never going to take a stand that hurts their future career prospects.

That was another shitshow on the tonight show…

At least Verona Murphy didn’t back down.

But more of the same we have to house everyone who comes in regardless as we have obligations.

Seems like they think the more they keep saying it the people might believe it.

They really think us plebs are thick.

And any dissenting voice is "far right"

Would be it conspiracy theory to suggest that the extra 4.5% VAT was lobbed back on, not in haste, but with intent that these buildings would be easily converted to 'emergency' accommodation?

OK but read your first paragraph there again. Do you see the issue? Your viewpoint still entails that the refugees from Ukraine should be allowed to come to and enter the country. That's the absolute heart of the matter — achieving all the other things is the hard part that comes after and is not easily handled. Weeding out the chancers is not always easy, deporting people is not always easy, putting people into custody if you can't deport them is costly and ultimately you can't keep them in prison forever. There aren't always easy ways around this and what a lot of people on this thread need to really wake up on is that these complications are complications because they are complicated — it isn't all just because lefties / traitors / George Soros / blue haired transgenders / snowflakes / NGOs / open borders activists or whatever other bogeyman that people want to use as the easy scapegoat for a problem that is as old as the human race.

And for the record, I think the recent EU package agreed only a couple of weeks ago to facilitate the sharing of the burden of refugees across EU member states, limiting the numbers arriving and fast tracking deportations are a step in the right direction. More needs to be done to assist the "front line" states in the east and along the Mediterranean coast in preventing traffickers from taking people to Europe, but that also requires a collaborative approach with countries East of the EU and in North Africa to facilitate co-operation with them and amenability to handling higher numbers of deportations / repatriation of refugees coming from those countries. This will take time and will not be perfect — none of this is ever going to be perfect because new crises will happen and it's not always because of people you don't agree with.

Ah jesus would you ever quit with this "invasion" talk. I am interested in intelligent conversation, I'm not interested in buzz words that people like to fling around for dramatic effect. Try it with someone else, but spare me the Twitterverse vocabulary.

Anyway, not sure if you're aware, but the Syrian conflict was (and indeed remains) pretty brutal — possibly the most brutal of the 21st century so far — and led to one of the biggest waves of refugee movements into Europe ever seen in modern times. The EU simply was not prepared for it and its asylum system effectively collapsed. That's obviously not good — but you had millions of people on the move into Europe and there was no magic portal into another dimension to usher them into.

And to be perfectly honest with you, if the EU hadn't first experienced the Syrian refugee crisis, then the absolute clusterf**k which has been the enormous displacement of Ukrainians would have been even more of a clusterf**k. The Syrian crisis at least led to better co-operation between EU countries, which in turn has helped the response — and this crisis had already played a role in the EU moving towards yet more reform at this very moment.

Does this not answer your post on the previous page as to why debate doesn't seem as "loaded" in the UK.