"Green" policies are destroying this country

I`m not aware of any of this supposed threadbanning spree either other than the serial links dumper and one other individual where even his avatar never mind his posts left him looking as having mental problems.

The only other green poster I recall being threadbanned was the very agressive poster who was buying cheap smoky fuel from Northern Ireland while telling the rest of us how great carbon tax was. The last two being quite some time ago. That there was some recent mass threadban sounds like a load of hokum attempting to play down the exodus unless somebody can show otherwise.

My point was for the amount of posters over the history of this thread who have contributed the majority are not banned. They have just moved onto other threads.

When you see this was the only political thread active on Christmas Day with people complaining about the environment I think that gives you a good indication why people have moved on. Christmas Day and they felt the need to post about the

I think it is more interesting because anyone who displays any sort of pro-Green agenda are called "zealot" "green nut" and any number of terms that poeple have found on the web that week

Yet, Christmas day, religious or not was a day for people to log on and moan about the environment. Who is the zealot?

Plus, when was religion the main point of Christmas Day? maybe 30 years ago but not for most families in Ireland anymore. Drinking/family get together etc is what the day is about, and presents :-)

It says in the link that it will cost between €1.5bn and €1.9bn.

Most of the work to be done between 2031 and 2040.

One other conclusion could be that most people can't be arsed with these neverending X (insert the thing you really dislike) bashing threads.

400km is already done in Greenways and 900km in planned Greenways.

Details are sketchy, it's hard to say on total cost based on that article.

I imagine that CPO won't be too difficult.Going by the motorway experience. It will depend on the price agreed.

That is one reason.

The other reason the thread has gone quiet is that posters cant be arsed responding to more anti-Green nonsense and misinformation.

I was never out to win an arguement nor was I looking for converts. Neither have I any idea as to what I was supposedly trying to convert posters on.

I have no problem with green energy and I`m not as one poster here seems to believe anti the environment. Again something I have no idea what that is supposed to entail, or even how anyone could be anti the environment. Unlike some here I am not someone who just follows dictates from on high and defends them unquestioning with a religious zeal. I come from a generation that is only too aware of where that in the past brough us.

I would be more in the area of a contrarian if you like in that I believe when it comes to proposals that will affect me, mine and the economic well being of the country it is more than reasonable to ask questions and point out where these proposals are taking us and the rational behind them. Many of which I see as being based on nothing more than an ideology and at times a particular Irish green ideology all of its own.

I live in the real world and have asked questions along with many others here where is the rational behing culling cattleignored, the imaginary boundaries that were being proposed for communities of 500+ and 500-, and the insistence on no LNG or gas storage when both Eirgrid and the CRU were telling Ryan they were required for energy security. Questions that were ignored and still have not been answered. When some here were telling us the capital costs of wind generation were only going to go down because of economy of scale etc. I along with many others here posted the end of year financial reports from wind turbine manufacturers that showed the opposite was going to be the case.Like others I have asked questions on the rational of the E.U. regarding wood burning as carbon neutral and a guarantee of green electricity generation which in Ireland`s experience was not worth the paper it was written on as well as others taking advantage of cheap fossil fuels to boost their economy producing all this green tech that following the trajectory we are on by using will wreck our economy. Again, no answers.

But to get to the real biggy, like others I have posted verifiable figures on just a section of this offshore wind plan we are suppose to follow to get us to zero carbon emissions by 2050 that are not so much totally economically unviable as laughable to anybody that can add two and two imo, and I have yet to see any answer that shows otherwise.

So no, I am not looking to win an arguement or make converts. I am asking questions that I belive in a democracy deserve to be answered and I hope the lack of answers from those that have been championing these policies along with their drop off in posting here is now due to at least some of them pausing for thought as to just where following these policies will bring us.

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I do not know what you define as anti-green nonsense but I would like to kindly ask you to point out couple of the misinformation you claim that were posted here.

Might be remembering incorrectly but don't you deny that humans are responsible for climate change?

It's not stopping them in the other thread

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058316862/global-warming/

Hopefully if some of our mising brethren do return, then it will not be with a lot of the waffle and evasion that has gone on here in the past on questions they are asked on a proposed plan they are backing.

The Greens are rattled. Resorting to puff pieces in the Irish Times and hoping to visit every councillor in the country. I'm not sure what they think visiting counsellors will achieve, but good luck to Eamon (presumably) cycling all of the greenways as he does it.

Paywalled, so see https://archive.ph/BKGQZ

Humans are responsible for climate change? This is exactly why people do not trust greens anymore. Statement like this show complete lack of understanding the issue of climate change. Not only that it is the same rehashed concept of baseless scaremongering it is actually increasing every time.

1960s - 'Oil will be gone in 10 years. We need millions to fix it.'

1970s - 'There will be an Ice Age in 10 years. We need millions to fix it.'

1980s - 'Acid rain will destroy all the crops in 10 years. We need billions to fix it.'

1990s - 'The Ozone layer will be destroyed in 10 years. We need billions to fix it.'

2000s - 'The glaciers will all melt in 10 years. We need billions to fix it.'

2010s - 'The coast will be underwater in 10 years. We need billions to fix it.'

2020s - 'Climate Change will kill us all in 10 years. We need trillions to fix it.'

As long as naïve people like you are willing to let the government keep them in fear, the government will continue to invent problems, increase taxes and endless spending while sending our national debt ever higher to the point it can never be paid back and eventually bankrupting our country.

Cool, thanks for illustrating my point. You're not a moderate view on the topic...