PK@rte.ie (again). The All New (Patrick Kielty) Late Late Show Thread

The chairman of the bored quip comes to mind 🙂.

I think that case has been discussed enough and they can hardly put photos or write pieces about all murdered Irish people on their anniversaries. yes she was murdered and it was an awful sad case but loads of Irish people have been murdered over the years in equally sad situations.

Seems like only two years ago the country came to a standstill and vowed never to the forget this horrible murder.

But you’ve had enough of it already. Because there are so many young Irish women brutally murdered in broad daylight by total strangers, we can’t be dwelling on this one (equally sad) case.

Wow, I struck a nerve and got a misogynistic reflex!

You objectify Ashling Murphy as just "a very pretty young woman", when in reality she was an accomplished traditional musician, a trained teacher who had just begun her career in a local school, a sportswoman who played for her local club and her college and, most of all, she was beloved by her family and sadly missed by all those who mourned her murder on Thursday.

But you didn't see past her photos so you don't understand why her murder "got so much airtime" (to borrow your callous phrase). Ashling Murphy's murder was completely exceptional because she was murdered in a public place by a total stranger who selected her opportunistically and attacked her brutally in broad daylight. Her murder meant that every woman in Ireland suddenly felt unsafe in public places where they used to feel secure.

And of course you threw in an "ad hominem" dig at me but, if you had bothered to look, I posted extensively on Sophie Toscan du Plantier, Raonid Murray, Jill Dando, Deirdre Jacobs, Annie McCarrick to mention just some examples. I was one of the few who posted on the horrible murder of Urantsetseg Tserendorj and more recently on the failure to bring an attempted murder charge arising from a vicious rape in Killarney.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058271396/rip-urantsetseg-tserendorj

You got a couple of thanks for your disgraceful comment.😥

Absolutely nobody? You think the people who came to grieve at her memorial yesterday wouldn't want a Late Late remembrance for Ashling? And that The Sun and The Mirror were wrong to report on this commemoration on their front page?

When our political leaders came to her funeral and said she would always be in our hearts, do you think they really meant "but we will not speak of her publicly after a year or so". When King Charles said her name will not be forgotten, did he mean we should do nothing to commemorate her after her first anniversary?

I have no doubt that the vast majority of Irish people want to commemorate Ashling and mourn her loss into the future. But some people here want us to forget this terrible murder and would even claim that their lack of human decency is an Orwellian sort of "common sense".

Agreed. A million miles from the Tubridy LLS cancer/misery "entertainment".

Coming from a breast cancer survivor and recently widowed cancer victim. There's a place for that and it's not on an end of week entertainment show.

Yeah it was the media scaring women if I remember correctly, they were appalling

They tried blame all Irish men that week

GoingMad Ted thinks we only care about Ashling's murder because she was "a very pretty girl" and now you say we are "elitist" for placing Ashling "above other victims". No one was stupid enough to express either of these obnoxious notions two years ago but they are expressed openly here as "common sense"!

All murders are terrible crimes but you are so blind to moral distinctions that you claim no murder should be commemorated unless we do likewise for all murders.

You use the war in Gaza as a shameless diversionary tactic but, if your comments had any logic, they mean that there should be no protests about Gaza unless there are equal protests about all wars 🤯

I shouldn't dignify this shameless farrago but you have the audacity to say I distort the words of others when you consistently misrepresented what I said and presented bogus arguments.

You have the nerve to pretend that "Ashling's family deserved privacy to remember and grieve" and that "her family don't need RTE or MSM using her image and memory for their needs or any agendas". You know perfectly well that her family organised last week's public commemoration which was attended by many hundreds of people and they thanked the media for their coverage. So, yes, your comments were a nasty and underhanded dig at a grieving family who were looking for public solidarity but you have nothing but crocodile tears.

You have already excelled yourself in the use of deflection to avoid my arguments. Now you use a classic strawman argument, claiming that I want

I never mentioned perpetuity or anything like it. This is just the second year since her murder and just two months since her murderer was convicted.

You say the newspapers that omitted any mention of Ashling on the front pages did so because their front pages "were covering current huge loss of life". I'm shocked to hear that Darina Allen's stews have caused huge loss of life and that the Irish Times new beauty columnist has passed away😥

You think it "absurd" that I see 'moral distinctions' between murders. Was it absurd for our President and Taoiseach to turn up at her funeral? You'll be shocked to know that every judge in the country makes such moral distinctions in murder cases even though the law fixes a mandatory life sentence. Judge Tony Hunt would have no time for your indifference and moral blindness. To borrow his comment to the Ashling Murphy jury “I’m glad you didn’t waste any more of your valuable time to deal with this nonsense, because that is what it was.”

And you achieved the trifecta of phony rhetoric - Deflection, straw-men and then dismissal. You brazenly denigrate me with "You're very much on your own wanting to commemorate one Irish murder victim" although you know hundreds gathered to do just that in Tullamore. And then with your disdainful "You've been given enough time and replies on here".

I would grant you one thing, but I trust you won't find it too insulting - those in the media who made Ashling's murder the biggest story of 2022 would gladly borrow your deceitful and hypocritical arguments to justify walking away now. Not that anyone will hold them to account.

The more I think of it, the less I like the idea of the family on the Late Late which has degenerated into a pale imitation of Jimmy Fallon. But they should have been asked.

You will see that, unlike others, I always brought this back to the failure of Late Late (like most the Irish media) to highlight Ashling’s anniversary because, as I have said in my last post, the Late Late has become a pale imitation of Jimmy Fallon (or, worse, a dinosaur that RTÉ can’t kill off. )

As a Mod, you should be grateful that I challenged the lies and fakery here about Ashling, beginning with the fact that she was not “taken” but brutally murdered and, most pertinently for the Late Late, that her family did not want to “grieve in private” and were grateful to the media which covered their commemoration.

I was alone in making these points and I have come to realise that Boards is not what it used to be and is no place for me.

Mod edit: infraction for ignoring mod instruction.

This smells of desperation

Was being on D'Arcy not good enough for him?