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Donegal GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,225 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Nothing to stop Armagh using their U 20 team. We have done the same in the past. 2013 but that was when the seniors were on holidays in Dubai afair, but the Armagh decision seems a bit strange as it is rumoured the did it because they had a challenge game arranged.



  • Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭LilNiall


    Donegal are passing the eye test so far....especially yesterday.

    Looking forward to the league games now. Promotion is a must if we are to be at the level I think Jim will want us to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Jim facing an eight week suspension. Build the fence!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭bob skunkhouse


    I'm surprised at an 8 week ban considering you can bait the head of a fellow player and receive a far lesser punishment. But, I'm far more surprised at no one within the camp knew the rule that a 17yr old can't play for a senior team. We've a Glenties club man at the helm, Glenties players on the team,Glenties current county champions and a county secretary ensuring all the 'Ts' are crossed and "i's" dotted and not one of them knew the rule! Strange if you ask me!

    Anyways, back to the football, there's no doubt the team look a lot fresher, hungrier, direct, intense than any game in the past 2 or 3 years. There's no question the 'McGuinness' factor is having an affect. I know it's only early days yet but the younger lads he's brought in are having an impact and showing plenty of enthusiasm. If I was to have one area of concern it's our lack of physicality. When Tyrone brought on Kilpatrick (adding to the existing 2 midfielders) and us taking off Magee, I don't think we won one long kick out. Against bigger, more physical teams this could be telling.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,225 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I wondered about thay myself or even how the Ulster Council even became aware of it. I doubt if it was from Armagh who do not seem to have much interest in the McKenna Cup, but if it was then a bit crass as they sent an U20 team to Ballybofey. For me the most likely answer is Mc Guinness himself who seemed to go out of his way to highlighted the lad had not yet played senior club. A "them all against us" can be a very useful edge at times. It did us no harm in 2012 after all the abuse we took in 2011. That said, and while I`m no fan of appealing when you are in the wrong, the very same Ulster Council highlighted that we would be foolish not to when after the league dust up with Armagh we held up our hand and took our punishment while Armagh appealed and walked away scot free. Not that it did them much good in the subsequent championship game, but then a bit of "them all against us" helped our cause on that accassion.


    The problem of physicality has been there for some time, and not to disparage two fine footballers, but our two wing backs McHugh and Mogan are not the most physically intimidating of players. In a final group stage game against Mayo in Castlebar Mayo targeted McHugh`s position at wing back and made hay. Two years ago in the Ulster Semi Cavan did the same and although we beat them (lucky enough to do so imo) they still got a lot of joy from the tactic. Ulster Final Derry did it and it again caused us serious problems. But then McGuinness is tactically astute so hopefully we will not see a recurrence. Delighted with the young lads. A good attitude and willingness as well as no lacking of talent which can only strengthen the squad.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    As expected, ban overturned on appeal. Interestingly the statement released said "the county secretary has been informed that the alleged infraction was not proven". How can it not be proven? The rule seems straightforward and his DOB can't be in any doubt so seems strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Thought that odd myself, I presume it is something to do with knowingly fielding an under age player or something like that. Wasn't aware of the rule myself, knew there was something about U-20 players not allowed to play senior, but not that one. Then again, I'm not on the County Board or a management team!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Like the Armagh match, can't take much from today's match against Monaghan.

    We do look sharp and it seems like we are more willing to tackle/engage.

    Will be interesting to see how we approach the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    there is no doubting the man's ability to manage a team or even convince a team to do battle , i think its just the type of management ye need at the moment given the county board stuff

    when it comes to the next level stuff i would question big jim , but his motivation stuff has got him some big gigs around the world , i have no doubt ye will be back in division 1 next year and ultra competitive again in ulster



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,225 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    On his past record he has no problem taking teams to the next level. We were a shambles when he took over in 2011 and put a bit of structure to us and then going to the next level winning the Senior All Ireland in 2012.

    I doubt Jim Gavin would question his abality to take a team to the next level after the masterclass of the 2014 semi final which stopped the very real likelihood of Dublin doing 8 in a row.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha


    he's won nothing anywhere since the 2014 Ulster Final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    Stick the popcorn in the microwave and enjoy watching this change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,225 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    He hasn`t managed any GAA senior team club or county since 2014.

    2011 - 2014 he managed Donegal to 4 Ulster Finals winning 3, plus winning a Senior AI in 2012 and got Donegal to the AI final in 2014. Not a bad record by any metric.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha


    not many positives to take from that unfortunatley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Great to see we gave nothing away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    I'm sure Jimmy was holding a few things back all right.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha


    Micheal Hegarty (Kilcar) and Paul Devlin (Kilcoo) are the new Kilcar managers according to their FB page



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Enough there to give hope for the year ahead. Twelve different scorers bodes well. Two goals that will give Jim plenty to discuss in the post match analysis.

    Is that the first time three Nauls lads have started for the county?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Hard to know what to make of it. An impressive score for January without our best forward. Don't know if many other sides we meet will be as open. Good to see Ryan McHugh motoring again. I still think he isn't a proper wing back, neither is Mogan.

    Hopefully more if a test in Cavan next week but Armagh might be the Only Senior opposition in this Division.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Wandered in here to see the chat ahead of next weekend. It’s hard to know what you’ll get from us. We were disappointing last season & Galligan is a new manager. We had a good result yesterday but it was the first day of the League so hard to tell.

    We’re still relying on the core of the team that won the 2020 Ulster final, along with having McVeety back & promising younger players like Lynch & Oisin Brady emerging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    I’m wondering how the club championship will be affected by Jim getting the most out of those selected for the intercounty squad. Probably St Eunans and Naomh Conaill will put greater distance between themselves and the rest, but I’d imagine a few who’ve not committed are getting nudged in order to bring the gains back to their clubs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    good to see i am not the only one that regards sam mcguire teams as senior teams , and tailtenn cup teams as intermediate , 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Good to see some intensity back especially in the tackle. Every player trying to contribute and impact the game not just taking up space on the field. McHugh was involved a lot. Will be interesting to see what effect he will have against a better set up team. Cork normally don't travel that well as was shown today. Looking forward to the other games especially the Armagh match which should have some real edge to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Tbh the focus in Donegal is really on ourselves. Last year was a disaster but we feel we have underperformed for a number of years. We are seeing green shoots but there is nobody getting carried away. The belief in the county is that we have the players to be competitive. If we’re not there will be no excuses because we have the best possible man in charge.

    Cavan in Breffni is always a challenge. We will probably be missing our marquee forward and first choice midfield. Jim has always used the league to experiment and I would expect that to continue as he tries different combinations. We won’t be getting carried away if we win nor will it be a doomsday scenario if we lose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Funny game. I thought we were in a spot of bother in the first half only being 6 up. Wind died in the second and Cork didn't come out of the dressing room and we were easy winners. Going forward we still look as good as anyone, at the back we still look lightweight and this will cost us in the business end I reckon. Good start though against one of the supposedly better teams



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭bob skunkhouse


    Haha.."Nobody getting carrier away...". No knowledgeable people getting carrier away but if you were to ask the buck on the street, they'd tell you Sam is coming home. Still, great to see the energy and excitement about the place.

    Thought Cork were very poor yesterday. That type of performance is worthy of relegation. I don't think the wind had as big a factor as they (Cork management) are making out. Simple fact is, they had no intensity or drive. For some of our long range points there wasn't a Cork player within 5 metres of our guys.

    Not a big fan of the sweeper keeper. When it goers bad, it generally goes horribly wrong as demonstrated yesterday and in Kerry. It's fine if you have a keeper that's used to playing out field but neither Patton nor Mulreany inspire confidence in this aspect.

    I didn't notice McGee nor Langan with the squad yesterday. Any truth to the rumour they fell foul off disciplinary measures?



  • Registered Users Posts: 24 FreeChocco


    I hear Patton, Gallen and Langan are likely back for the Cavan game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    First game can be deceptive but Kildare and Meath mightn't be promotion contenders. Meath badly tailed off after a good start last year, ended up 3rd from bottom and eventually in the Tailteann cup.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,225 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Difficult to know where Meath are right now. They are the only Division 2 side guaranteed a Sam Maguire spot by winning the Tailteann Cup so looking to just avoid relegation and looking more at having a good good run in the championship might be more their focus.

    Cavan looked good for it being an away game for them but then it was an away game for Kildare as well and with Kildare it has always been impossible to judge where they are at from one dy to the next.

    Armagh`s result at home didn`t look great, but then Louth may have been as much to do with that as Armagh looking off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,225 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I would put a collar on both Patton and Mulreany that would give both an electric shock if they either set a foot outside the 20 metre line.

    The Cork management mentioning the wind as being a factor was them trying to make the best of a bad performance. It micht have died down for the second half but even playing against it we outscored them 1-08 to 1-03.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    So Patton and Gallen named to start. Langan on the bench with EBG.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    Was the EBG injury a result of a collision?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭harpsman


    Good win in Cavan. Meath and Kildare don’t look up to much. You would expect to beat Louth and Fermanagh so all going to plan a couple of phoney wars against Armagh.

    good to see langan and mcmenamin back. Struggle at midfield by the sounds of things



  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Murphy14


    Typical Ulster contest …Cavan we’re certainly paying extra attention to Ryan & Oisin …Good to see Stephen Mc Menamin back we need him in these physical battles … Cavan dominated us at midfield particularly on their own kick out, while Patton’s kicking was excellent always finding his man.Ryan was coolness personified when game needed to be closed out. Ciaran Thompson really grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck. Some baffling calls by the ref. But 2 points of the road is a good day.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19 crazyfool


    I have 2 tickets for the Donegal v Fermanagh game if anyone wants them? Free to a good home. Can’t make Letterkenny on Saturday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Murphy14


    Another good result on Saturday first half we looked very sluggish 2nd half really upped our game substitutes all made a positive impact. Fine outing by Daire O Baoill, Brendan Mc Cole done a good job shadowing Ultan Kelm. No doubt this Sunday will be a bigger test of where we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Triboro


    Is the Donegal game being shown live on anything today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,300 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Triboro


    That'll do nicely, thanks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Hard to know what to make of that game. Probably should have won. Armagh finished with a stronger team than when they started.

    Our attack looked laboured enough at times, we didn't play with enough pace. Maybe that was deliberate.

    Too many sloppy turnovers. Like we saw in Cavan. Defence played well.

    Ciaran Moore looks like an excellent addition. Brilliant block and then worked hard to prevent a 45.

    But happy enough with a draw. Both teams should be meeting again in a few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    I enjoyed the game on Sunday. We’re definitely going in the right direction. McGonigle is now a key player for us at centre back. He was excellent on Sunday. Ryan and Paddy are rejuvenated. McCole continues to impress too. However Farrah looked like he was carrying a knock and midfield is a concern without Jason. From what I’ve heard he’s unlikely to make the Derry match.

    The first twenty minutes of the second half we were excellent and blew Armagh off the pitch. However we didn’t make it count on the scoreboard. The goal chance in particular was the result of an excellent interchange where we carved them open. We needed more composure with the finish. Yet again we missed a penalty. Our record with penalties is very poor.

    We are clearly fitter than we have been in a long time. We have a new level of intensity. I think that we are playing in a manner at the moment that is giving nothing away tactically to opposition. There was no innovation in our kick outs for example.

    There is much to be optimistic about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Drop me a message if anyone wants my ticket for the game tomorrow. Have an U16 also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭agfasfos


    Hi Folks, maybe it's an age thing but I still can't figure out how we qualify for the last 16 of the All Ireland series. We have the tough opening Ulster Quarter Final clash v Derry, they're flying at the moment despite the loss to Dublin. If they beat us what route do we have into the Championship & avoid The Tailteann Cup, apologies if this has come up before but from what I've seen has me totally confused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Donegal will definitely finish in the top four of Division 2 so will definitely be in the All Ireland series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭overshoot


    one of us Derry, Tyrone will make the final, likely Monaghan from the other side… but let’s assume not and say a team behind us. (So 1 d1 Ulster side)

    The odds of Kerry, Dublin not being in finals highly unlikely. Connacht final, say Sligo shock Galway, mayo or ros… will be in the final.

    so 4 division 1 make provincial finals. 4 teams from below us as a worst case. Meath in as tailteann cup leaves 7 championship spots for the league… for teams not already qualified.

    that leaves all d1 teams and third in d2 making it (assuming Meath finish below this and don’t make Leinster)… the bookies would give some serious odds for us not to make the championship



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Only able to listen to the game today. Sounded like a poor enough performance but goal broke the game open and at the end of the day, we are now top of the table and one more win ensures promotion. I watched Kildare today and shame on us if we lose to them.

    Hopefully McCole not too bad, seems be had a boot on. It's a bit concerning we haven't seen McColgan, McGee, Niall O'Donnell yet. We need a bit more experience on the bench.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,169 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Solid league campaign. The next two games won’t be a priority for Jim. The players are in for a rough couple of weeks training.

    As an aside where are the McGeehin defenders gone? They were stinking up this thread last year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Probably not a lot learned from the win yesterday as Kildare were desperately poor and looked like a team just trying to avoid a hiding. At a few points in the first half all 30 players, including Patton, were in the Kildare half. That said a number of players looked good, especially Mogan who had a great game. We took our scores very well, I think 16 of the 17 points were from play and the other was a mark. The referee awarded us a free in the Kildare half during the second half to cheers from the crowd! Apart from a few poor choices, by and large we worked the scoring opportunities well and the kicking accuracy was very impressive. Good to have Langan motoring well again too.

    All focus will switch to Derry now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭henke


    In other good news. Donegal finally have an overdue new website.



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