Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Name me one achievement that makes Harry a living legend of aviation.

Its a nonsense award that includes genuine aviators and celebrity pilots. That's all Harry is in there for. Being a celebrity pilot. All this bullsh*t trying to build Harry up into some some Maverick style super pilot is hilarious.

I wouldn't even say Harry believes he is a legend, he could be just going to the awards for a bit of a night out for all I know. Are these sort of things not 10 a penny in the USA and par for the course with celebrity types?

@backwards_man Do you think Harry himself is a narcissist? I'd be more of the opinion that Megan is the narcissist and Harry is a willing sidekick.

He is there for the following efforts.

I would think the setting up of the Invictus Games is a fairly significant contribution (if you don't rate him as a pilot). And of course his speaking out about the trauma of war and the effect it has on those who have served on the front line. What do you think?

Nice to see that the dinner is fully sold out.

https://living-legends-of-aviation.myshopify.com/

Answering this: @backwards_man Do you think Harry himself is a narcissist? I'd be more of the opinion that Megan is the narcissist and Harry is a willing sidekick.

From my own experience of narcissists Meghan's behaviour and characteristics would seem to match however I am not a doctor so maybe she is just a negatively manipulative and domineering force on everyone in her sphere with a complete inability to let things go and continually speak her truth (lies) however inconsistent it is with provable reality. As for Harry, he is just so dim and easily led, I find it hard to believe he is a narcissist. To be a good manipulator you need to be smart. He has an inflated sense of importance in my opinion and an inability to consider other people's feelings especially his family's. But who knows. It doesn't really matter. People show you who they are with their behaviour.

Signs of Narcissistic Men & How to Deal With Them (choosingtherapy.com)

According to the DSM-5, NPD is characterized by:

• Grandiosity: This is when a person has an exaggerated sense of self-importance and expects others to recognize and acknowledge their greatness. They may be obsessed with fantasies of grandeur and success, and believe that they are special enough to deserve these.1
• Lack of empathy: Narcissists do not take others’ emotions into consideration. This lack of empathy can contribute to a narcissist being manipulative, abusive, and cold when they feel that they are not getting their needs met or if things are not going their way.
• Obsessive need for admiration: At the core of narcissism is a very fragile ego. In order to protect and reassure this, a narcissist will seek out and even orchestrate receiving attention from others.

He was cut off early by Charles from what was agreed with QEII. The reason he was cut off early was because he was pursuing legal action against some British media outlets and one staff member of the RF was outed as selling info to the newapapers and which Harry was citing in his court submissions that the media were obtaining private information illegally.

My original point is that the Royal Family made a huge mistake withdrawing all funding because without that funding Harry was going to have to fund his family himself and was free to do so. Reason why they probably have not kicked out Andrew is that they probably have learned their lesson because Andrew would probably do the same and write a book to to fund himself and he definately knows where all the bodies are buried.

Edit: by the way, when you leave a job with 30+ years service, you usually have some sort of a pension!

Well, I doubt if he was being paid much as a 5 year old when he was paraded around for the British press to be oggled at.

My point still remains. The RF made a huge mistake cutting off all funds as it forced their hand to fund themselves in whatever way they could. And because he has made a fist of it, he now has the funds to hopefully destroy the British gutter press once and for all who will bring the remainder of the RF down with them.

But is that not exactly what they wanted?

Didn't they make a statement saying they would be financially independent etc. Would no longer work for the royal family but decide themselves what work they wanted to do? Wasn't that the whole point.

Why would they still get paid by the royal family, it's a ridiculous idea!

They originally wanted to be half in, half out, live in the Commonwealth (where they were both very popular) and offered to fund themselves as much as possible (Harry's work with Better Up would have been compatible with working for the RF for example). They were in Canada for 15 months before they opened their mouths (and that was because of all the lies being spun by the British gutter press about them despite them rarely appearing).

And just to demonstrate how reliable the British press is, here is a YouGov survey on how trustworthy they are:

The Sun -53

The Daily Mail is -37

The Mirror is -37.

The Express is -31.

The Guardian is +30

BBC +23.

The Spectator, a favourite bible around here is -8.

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/45744-which-media-outlets-do-britons-trust-2023

There are so many inaccuracies in your post there’s just too much effort involved to even try and reply and address them- so I won’t 😀

What is all this rameis?

That they were given 15 months to devid what they wanted was very generous!

You can't expect any half in/half out of the royal family to work, ridiculous and naive

I couldn't care less about the British press or any of their lies either.

You keep missing the point I'm making. It was a huge mistake by the Royal Family to throw Harry out/cut him off (with the hope that he would coming running back to be the scapegoat/distraction from the rest of that dysfunctional so-called family).

PS - they were given nothing. They said nothing for 15 months when they decided to respond to the unrelenting press attention from the gutter British press, whose trustworthiness varies from -30 to -50.

Where do you get your information about them, if not from the British press who can't stop talking about them.

Harry left- he wasn’t “thrown out”

Absolutely. Poor 'Saintly' Harry! He has had to slum it in his huge Californian mansion.

Harry turned the very good idea into a global event. Edward Lane Fox was Harry's Private Secretary, not Williams. If William and Catherine were involved, you would think they would have turned up to the event in Canada in 2016 (its first event outside England).

The Invictus Games is a family event, and Meghan is the wife of a veteran and the founder. Why do you think she should be excluded?

I'm not sure where you get the idea that the Invictus Games are desparate for sponsors since countries bid and host the games. So far, Canada, The Netherlands and Germany have hosted them and Canada is hosting the next one in Whistler. So far they stay that they have raised $48m of $50m budget with a year to go yet.

Thanks to his and Meghan's entrepreneurship they don't need the British taxpayer's support (or his billionaire father and brother) to keep then in the style that they are used to😉

I just don't get why you all seem to be so upset about that.

Poor Harry, not paid when he was photographed as a child and losing the right to a home he voluntarily left and subsequently bought a Montecito mansion.

It's ghastly, practically Dickensian. Single tear, left eye, go!