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The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    Never liked Dunphy always thought he was a little weasel. Have always respected John Giles and have listened to him on OTB since he staryed on it. I do agree though it is coming to an end and wont be long before John packs it in.

    Once one door shuts another opens, though. We now have football podcasts left, right and centre. The likes of Jonathon Wilson, Lars Sivertson, Tim Vickery, Ken Early etc to entertain us. Football punditry is better now than ever imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I like all those pundits you mentioned and I'd add Pat Nevin and Tim Vickery to the list as well. Apart from Ken Early there isn't likely to be much robust debate from any of the others though. That may be more to do with the format where its often 1 on 1 (interviewer/guest) or a panel where each persons speaks in turn without much pushback.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Of current football-related podcasts, I really like "The rest is football" with Gary Lineker, Shearer and Micah Richards. Yes I know Richards can be a bit painful but overall it's a good show, plenty of honest and frank debate. The lads are definitely free'er with their opinions on it than they would be on MOTD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,141 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    The Liam Brady special episodes were very good.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    Yea Nevin is good but i used only listen to him on OTB on a Monday but haven't in quite a while. I only mentioned the few i did as they sprung to mind but there are others i like the lads on Totally Football Show too, Dan McDonnell is usually quite informative especially on League of Ireland where him and his sidekick Johny Ward also have a good podcast. Plenty to go around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Newstalk / Off The Ball are completely painful for the most part in my opinion. They're the guys who've lobbied for Stephen Kenny for the last few years, the great white hope for Irish football and look how thats turned out....

    Their recent paid subscriptions model has gone down like a lead balloon too, so I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I didn't like their bias on Vera Pauw either. Whether she was right or wrong I thought they were too one-sided on it.

    Apart from a few guest slots I haven't missed it much since it went over to subscription. There was a lot of passing-the-time, chatting-amongst-themselves conversations on it I thought.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dunphy needs to have Brady and Giles on at the same time...there are certain obvious mistakes that they let slip. Certain type won't tolerate it which is understandable.

    OTB generally take the PC line...you're not allowed give an honest opinion anymore don't you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭dublin49


    I would think Liam Brady had a wry smile listening to Eamon waxing on about what a great Footballer/Person/ Author Liam is given his previous criticisms of Brady.No problem anyone admitting they called it wrong but nobody can somersault like Dunphy when it comes to changing his mind.Liam is now one of the greatest footballers of all time ,up there with Platini and Ronaldo ,no doubt.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's topical with the book and documentaries recently...there is a doting element to it despite how good Brady was...I reckon it was more a case that he was somewhat forgotten/underrated in Ireland because he wasn't part of 88 and 90.. also it prob didn't help that he was playing in Italy rather than England. I've heard a few ex pros (most recently Matt LeTissier) say that they wanted to be like Liam Brady...that's the best measure of how good someone was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Its a great shame that Liam didn't appear in a major tournament. Suspension and injury ruled him out of Euro 88 and maybe at age 34 he was just too late for Italia 90, regardless of Jack's priorities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Given the death of Terry Venables, I listened to the podcast today to hear if there was any reference to Eamon’s famous hatchet job when TV was being mentioned for the Irish job. Sadly it was all very polite and positive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Venables was in poll position to get the Ireland job until Dunphy's outburst.

    It was a shame, I think we missed out on a top coach. A case of what have been



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    So he made no reference at all to that hatchet job he did on him? Unbelievable. It’s there on YouTube for all to see! It was over the top, even by Eamon’s standards. If I vaguely recall, Venables considered taking legal action against him at the time for defamation.

    He definitely lost any chance he had of getting the Irish job as a result. But then again TV never really had any serious coaching / management success after the England job. His stint at Leeds was a disaster and he had an ill-fated 2nd stint with England as assistant to McClaren which ended disastrously too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    They covered the dunphy thing and life of venables on second captains today. Guardian football weekly will cover venables too.

    Ya a shame. Would have been better than Trap I think.



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Hearing Eamon & John talking about S.Bruce being a potentially good next appointment for Ireland sends a shiver down my spine. Seriously, pray to god it isnt him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,141 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    What’s this thing with Ruby Walsh on shilling the gambling / horse racing industry. I didn’t make it past 10 minutes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Leslie Purkiss


    Irish horse racing has itself to blame. A rancid scene.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    It's very possible that a mediocre club manager could be a good international manager though and vice versa. A lot depends on the characters and attitudes. History shows that.

    Next Man City manager: You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep. But as far as I'm concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest **** dustbin you can find, because you've never won any of them fairly. You've done it all by bloody cheating.



  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Painful stuff. Poor enough form from Dunphy to have that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    A top coach, maybe, but a total chancer in business. Disqualified in 1998 from acting as a company director for seven years for misdemeanours including bribery, deception, manipulation of accounts and misappropriation of funds intended for creditors. It's rumoured he often facilitated transfer dealings at clubs he managed by making illegal payments, "bungs" as they were called, to opposition managers and coaches in the form of cash in brown paper bags which would be handed over at motorway service stations. This kind of practice was rumoured to be rife in English football back in the seventies and eighties. There was always a whiff of sulphur surrounding "El Tel".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Ironically, their is a clip of Dunphy on Rte around the same time with Delaney and he refers to Delaney as one of the "good guys" in the FAI

    How farcical was that



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Many things are farcical with Dunphy but I cant help but like the man, he's not my type of politics either. But one thing you can say about his show is that its entertaining. Surprisingly, my favourite guests of his are Fionnan Sheehan, Tom Cloonan and J.Giles. Guys I doubt would be my cup of tea in real life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Whatever your politics are, they’ve been Dunphy’s too at some point.

    (Unless you’re some sort of far right maniac)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,789 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    He'd be gone in a heartbeat if a Premier league came calling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Gilsey wants player booked for going down injured rather than adding on time.


    cant see any problem with that 🤨



  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭The Guru 123


    I was just thinking the last time I was listening to Chris John’s on the stand that I haven’t heard Eamo mention Johns description of Boris Johnson’s Tory cabinet as “journalists, right wing hacks and after dinner speakers” in a while. At one stage he used to mention that like clockwork in every podcast with Johns much to Johns noticeable annoyance. He must have told Eamo he was done if he didn’t stop that constant reference!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    I used to cringe when Eamon wheeled out Chris's observation for the millionth time. I'd say he was starting to regret ever writing it in the first place, even though it is a fine analogy. He also loves Trump's call to the Proud Boys. I think you might've heard that one once or twice on The Stand. Maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Eamo is terrible for repeating almost verbatim the same introduction each time for all his guests. I'd say some of them are nearly sick of hearing it themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭QueensGael




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭franglan


    "it is true, is it not" that.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    John thought Leeds finishing 3rd would get them promoted. Eamon told him it only gets them to the playoffs. Eamon glosses over it in a very kind way so that it took the focus off of John's faux-pas. It's really shocking how John didn't know about the play-offs and how promotion works in England. Perhaps it's the beginning of dementia? It left me feeling a bit shocked, but ultimately sad. I really like John, and I even like Eamon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Murdoc90


    John is still very sharp for his age when he knows what he is talking about, problem is he's still depending on knowledge from 20 years ago and whatever he reads in that mornings paper. He doesn't do any research and barely watches any games.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    He’s 83. He’s just old. That’s just what eventually happens to all of us if we live that long.



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Eamons taking a grand old break over the xmas break, wouldnt begrudge him it though, looking forward to his next football podcast with Gilsey



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes a well earned break. His output has been quite high all year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Not strictly to do with the Stand but a nice get together of the 3 lads for Liams recent book launch on OTB. Very poignant seeing them together again. We should be grateful to still have them to enjoy.

    https://youtu.be/6VfY5DlNKec?si=DrELsV0lTVjRIMv7



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Very lucky to have them, Eamon seems to get very emotional at times these days. He sounds & looks the most unwell out of all of them. Hopefully they're around for at least a few more years still



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    He does look somewhat unwell there. Hopefully just a result of festive overindulgence. Although he's younger than John, by his own admission he would have partied a lot more over the years and it may be catching up on him now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    i think the clip is from October. Dunphy looks like he had to climb 10 flights of stairs seconds before the show started. Red faced and out of breath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Didn't realise it was October. Hopefully he's ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    He was/is a heavy smoker for most of his life. That’s probably done far more harm than his monthly benders.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He suffers from Emphysema. I think they caught him on a bad day as he hasn't sounded like that on podcasts since. He almost sounded emotional at times but I think it was just the his condition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    I'm well familiar with the condition. My grandmother developed it after decades of heavy smoking and it blighted the final few years of her life. Eamon's appearance, breathing and speaking are giving me flashbacks... I hope he was coming off the back of a cold or something, rather than this being a sign of how things have deteriorated. It also explains why Tomás Ryan's Dr Death shtick scared the living daylights out of Eamon when Covid was still a thing. I remember him continuing to contribute to other radio shows over the phone for some time. This was when other journalists had started coming into studios again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Yes that’s actually a really that’s a good observation. I always wondered why Eamonn bought wholesale all of Tomas Ryan’s scary covid predictions and general pessimism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Hope Eamon is alright, he’s been off nearly a month now, there’s Xmas breaks and then there’s Xmas breaks. Wonder will they try and limit the amount of episodes he does this year as he did a shedload last year for a man of his age



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I was thinking the same thing. But hopefully it's just an extended break. I thought the same previously and he reappeared and picked up where he left off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Could be at his villa in France I suppose😂. Would be good to see more of Peter Oborne, Elovsky, Simon Kuper & Johnny O'Reilly in the new year



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